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Al Cook
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Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:25pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Chris:

The "Spindrift" snippet didn't immediately grab me either, but I found after
listening to it a couple of time and writing it off it started to creep into my
head and now I love it -- can't wait to hear the whole thing! (Love the chord
progressions...)

Two more weeks!
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Chris Marquardt
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 5:56pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

The "Spindrift" snippet didn't immediately grab me either, but I
found after listening to it a couple of time and writing it off it
started to creep into my head and now I love it -- can't wait to
hear the whole thing! (Love the chord progressions...)
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And I'll probably feel the same way. In fact, I find that some of my
favorite Rush tunes are ones that DIDN'T initially grab me, but
took a while to absorb into my brain. For example: Territories,
Peaceable Kingdom, and most of Counterparts (especially Alien
Shore - now THAT'S a song!).
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Al Cook
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 6:56pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

You got that right!
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Jeremiah Hetherington
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Posted: 20 April 2007 at 5:09am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Faithless: "I believe in love and that's faith enough for me." N.Peart.

 

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Mark Heinz
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Posted: 20 April 2007 at 4:42pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

"I find that some of my favorite Rush tunes are ones that DIDN'T initially grab me, but
took a while to absorb into my brain."

Oh man, isn't that true. I never came as close to actually NOT liking a new Rush album as when "Hold Your Fire" first came out. Over the years, it's become one of my favorites.

BTW, hello, everybody.
Huge Rush fan here.

With the possible exception of Black Sabbath (in the Ozzy and Dio incarnations) they are my favorite band of all time.

 Favorite albums include.. well, all of 'em, but esp. Presto, Vapor Trails and Signals.


Only seem 'em once. On the Presto tour. Best concert I've ever seen.
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Jeremiah Hetherington
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Posted: 20 April 2007 at 11:14pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Big HYF fan here. too. That's a thoughtful, moving album. I love it.

Looking forward to this tour! I have 6 shows lined up, including the first three. I can't get enough.

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Bill Collins
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Posted: 21 April 2007 at 4:40am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I had serious trouble getting into Signals,but as with all Rush albums from Fly By Night onwards repeated listening gives great rewards.
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Gene Best
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Posted: 21 April 2007 at 12:09pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Rush was disappointed with Signals, as well.

They fired Terry Brown after that record.  Alex was interviewed in Guitar Player (?) in 1984, and said that he felt the keyboards and the guitar were fighting over the same frequencies on that record, resulting in a murky mix.  Moving Pics, by contrast, gave each of the instruments its own sonic territory within which to play.

You'll notice on Grace Under Pressure that the keyboard sounds changed dramatically - Geddy moving towards higher bell-like sounds, less synth pads, and Alex playing more staccato - getting out of each other's way, and opening up more sonic space.  The change in sound got more dramatic with PW and HYF, too.

The irony is that 20 years later, Vapor Trails suffered from a even more cumbersome muddiness without any keyboards on the record at all!

 

 



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Al Cook
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Posted: 23 April 2007 at 5:37am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Thinking about the subject matter on the upcoming Snakes & Arrows has me
thinking that someone here who knows how to get such a thing to him
should send JB a copy. (And throw in a copy of Roadshow as well...)
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Mark Heinz
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In terms of production, I think the first song off Snakes and Arrows they've released, "Far Cry" has a very similar sound to "Test for Echo" -- almost like it could have come off that album.

Anybody else think that?
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 23 April 2007 at 11:24am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Never mind Roadshow,throw all the books John`s way,especially `Masked` and `Ghost Rider`.
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Al Cook
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Bill - didn't recognize you with the new avatar. Glad to see someone else
agrees. I think that JB would find Peart to be something of a kindred spirit...
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Chris Marquardt
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Posted: 23 April 2007 at 5:35pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

Posted by me in the drummers thread about a month ago:
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<< Neil Peart is the JB of drums in my opinion. >>

You know, I've long thought this, for several reasons:

1. They're both among the best at what they do, but both refuse
to admit it and will trot out long lists of others who they think "do
it better."

2. Both are continually trying to learn and hone their craft, and
are not happy with giving less than 100% on any project they
touch.

3. Neither suffers fools gladly.

4. Both are fiercely independent in their political and social
thinking.

5. Both toil away from the limelight, but command a rabid fan
following.

I've often considered recommending Neil's books and music to JB,
just to see what he thinks. Might be intetresting...
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Heck of an echo in this place!

Edit: One more. How many times have we heard from the casual
Rush fan, "their old stuff was better?"

Edited by Chris Marquardt on 23 April 2007 at 5:37pm
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 24 April 2007 at 2:17am | IP Logged | 14 post reply

Al,the new avatar is because i`m really in a `Life On Mars` mood at the moment.That may change by Saturday,as i`m hoping to get the new cd a little early due to pre-ordering it.Usually Monday releases(We get new cd`s Monday not Tuesday over here) are posted the end of the previous week so that in theory we get them on day of release,if the Royal Mail are on the ball we get them Saturday...fingers crossed!

P.S. Maybe someone should include 2112 in with the books?

P.P.S. I can add a 6th to Chris` list,Both are excellent wordsmith`s,which is really their respective secondary talent,Neil-Percussion,John-Art.

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Jeremiah Hetherington
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Posted: 24 April 2007 at 8:11pm | IP Logged | 15 post reply

^Good comparison Chris. No wonder those two are my favorite artists' in their respective fields.
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 25 April 2007 at 2:10am | IP Logged | 16 post reply

`Their old stuff was better` 

Their old stuff was different,that is what a lot of fans can`t cope with,change! I`d rather have a band who change and evolve rather than a hundred who keep churning out variations of their classic album/s.

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Mark Heinz
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"Their old stuff was different,that is what a lot of fans can`t cope with,change! I`d rather have a band who change and evolve rather than a hundred who keep churning out variations of their classic album/s."

Amen.
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 28 April 2007 at 3:32pm | IP Logged | 18 post reply

Played the album a couple of times on my mp3 player,so far i love The Larger Bowl,nice acoustic guitar and a very Thin Lizzy-esque solo,The Main Monkey Business has some subtle drumming background detail.I can`t wait to hear the 5.1 version of this album,nice open clear production this time around too.Bravest Face is a favourite too.Malignant Narcissism is great too,named i believe after Kim Jong -Il`s race from Team America(Mal-Nar)
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Byron Graham
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Posted: 28 April 2007 at 10:06pm | IP Logged | 19 post reply

I talked an old Army buddy of mine into seeing Rush with me on 1 September in Cincinnati, Oh. This'll be my first Rush concert! Better late than never, I suppose. Lawn seating, so I guess I'd better snag some lawn chairs and binoculars and perhaps bring my Camelbak. Wooo!
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 30 April 2007 at 2:47pm | IP Logged | 20 post reply

Anyone else have to look up `Pantoun`?
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Al Cook
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Posted: 30 April 2007 at 4:14pm | IP Logged | 21 post reply

You know Bill, it really annoys me that you folks across the pond have got
your copies already...

I think a Pantoun is a type of sonnet, isn't it?

Now you've got me really curious as to what I'm going to hear tomorrow!
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Chris Marquardt
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Posted: 30 April 2007 at 6:38pm | IP Logged | 22 post reply

Got an "advance" copy of the CD over the weekend (but will still be buying
both legitimate versions, as well)...

There is a LOT to absorb there. And it's very, very cool. This will definitely
require a number of listens to fully digest, but that's the best part, as we
discussed above.

I will say, though, that "The Main Monkey Business" is NUTS in a very subtle
way. It doesn't initially sound that complex, but every time I listen to it I just
end up laughing at the sheer amount of craziness going on. I can't wait to
see if they pull it off live.
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Bill Collins
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Al,i will still have to wait like you guys for my 5.1 copy,probably longer as it needs to cross the Atlantic! I cannot understand why the U.S. has Tuesdays as it`s release day not Mondays.
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Al Cook
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Posted: 01 May 2007 at 8:17pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

Well, I've got it now, have had a chance to listen to it three times,

and it's Freakin' Amazing!
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Jeremiah Hetherington
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Posted: 02 May 2007 at 4:19am | IP Logged | 25 post reply

It's a Dagwood Sandwich of an album.

"All my life, I've been working those angels. Overtime."

Signature Rush. They've done it again. This one's a grower though. Give it a bit of time to really sink in. They've thrown in everything but the kitchen sink (they found a mellotron though), and this is one heavy-duty rock album. Beautifully produced.

Check for spindrift before listening.    

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