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John Byrne

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Posted: 17 October 2020 at 8:08pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

1984 (1956)

Edmond OíBrienís Winston Smith is far too well fleshed in this sanitized version of George Orwellís bleak prediction. (Not helped by having watched John Hurt in the brutal 1984 release just a few weeks ago.)

Iíve read Orwellís widow was so incensed by the changes made to the story she actually compelled the film to be taken out of distribution. True, or NewSpeak?

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James Woodcock
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Posted: 18 October 2020 at 1:18am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Re problems with predicting the future.

Blade Runner was & still is, my go to for being set way too early.
Not because of the advances in AI, mega cities or any of that. But
because, Even in the Ď80s, When I was 13 years old watching this, the
thought that we would have interstellar drives & have colonised other
worlds within less than 30 years never sat well with me.

I still think it was a phenomenal movie, but I have to have a problem
with a movie, & thatís mine with Blade Runner.
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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 18 October 2020 at 8:33am | IP Logged | 3 post reply


Night #17 - (Technically, these were TV shows, but they're still in keeping with our 31 nights marathon):


It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown [1966]

If there's one mandatory Halloween viewing in our household each year, this is it.  My wife & kids & I all have this memorized by heart.  It's just not October without it.

(Followed by some random, classic early-'90s "Treehouse of Horror" episodes from THE SIMPSONS.)



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John Byrne

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Posted: 18 October 2020 at 8:39am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Blade Runner was & still is, my go to for being set way too early.

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That's the inherent danger in such predictions. NEXT MEN was set in "the Future", but I was very cagey about just how far. Into the 21st Century, I figured, but nothing specific. Meanwhile, Frank set his MARTHA WASHINGTON series much too close, and we quickly passed it, without reaching it!

At the other extreme, Asimov set his robot novels (THE CAVES OF STEEL, THE NAKED SUN) fifty thousand years hence--WAY too far for us to be presented with such a recognizable society.

One movie that actually sidesteps this problem quite nicely is IN TIME. Pay attention, and you can deduce it's set hundreds of years in the Future, but the fashions and tech are all retro, even for the time it was made.

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James Woodcock
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Posted: 18 October 2020 at 9:59am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I liked that Next Men was just Ďin the futureí. & I think thatís all we really
need.

I need to look up In time., Iíve never seen it

Edit. Turns out Iíve actually watched it & liked it. Just havenít seen it in
so long Iíve forgotten it.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 18 October 2020 at 11:39am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

HEREíS a 1956 BBC adaptation of 1984 starring Peter Cushing as Winston Smith.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 18 October 2020 at 5:32pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

but the fashions and tech are all retro, even for the time it was made
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I was thinking when watching Rollerball that they might have been better off going for a more retro or conservative look in terms of fashions. Instead everything looks basically 70s with a kind of occasional avant-garde twist.

Some broad brush ideas weren't too far off the mark -- the power of corporates, globalism, digital storage and so on -- but the actual execution was bogged down in 70s tech, so we have chunky computers and chunky push buttons and everything is kind of white-washed and gleaming.
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Shaun Barry
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Night #18 - another Vincent Price offering, and first-time viewing of:

THE TOMB OF LIGEIA (1965)

Intriguing, but ultimately underwhelming... heard some good things about this one over the years, but I found it rather dry and uninvolving to start; it got more interesting and spooky along the way, but the whole felt awkwardly choppy in terms of story structure, pacing, logic, confused edits, and sometimes-clunky dialogue.  

Granted, the low-budget couldn't have helped, but it still feels like it could have been cleaned-up and streamlined a bit.  For me, despite the English locations, not one of the better Price/Roger Corman/Poe pictures.





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Peter Martin
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Dementia 13 (1963). Watched it because Coppola's involvement had me intrigued, but it comes across pretty much as it was intended to be. Namely, a micro-budgeted Pyscho knockoff. And no, that's not good.

Also finished watching Rollerball. I remember people at school saying it was good decades ago. First time I'd seen it though. Kind of po faced, muddled and dull and a bit pretentious really.
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Shaun Barry
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Night #19 - Howlingly awful double-feature:

EXORCIST II: THE HERETIC (1977) 
and
LIFEFORCE (1985)

Y'know, this year has been quite a pisser, and too many horror films in October can get a bit grim after a while... sometimes you just need some big belly-laughs, of the unintentional kind.

These two are cut from the same cloth... while they have some fantastic, phantasmagorical imagery, as well as some splendid scores (by Ennio Morricone and Henry Mancini, respectively), they're also both ridiculous rubbish, filled with hammy acting*, eye-rolling dialogue and (at times) some distractingly poor special effects.

But if you're in the right frame of mind, they can also be a real hoot!  Not recommended for everyone, but I needed the chuckles.

*(Steve Railsback in LIFEFORCE:  One of the most shockingly awful lead performances in a major film I've ever seen!)



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Petter Myhr Ness
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Posted: 20 October 2020 at 4:27am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

CANNONBALL RUN II (1984)

Hadn't seen it since I was a kid. Seemed to remember it was fun. I was wrong.

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James Woodcock
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I saw Lifeforce when it came out, in the cinema. I was 16.

Crap does not even begin to describe what I thought about this film.
Absolutely terrible.
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