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Brian Hague
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| Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:35pm | IP Logged | 1
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JB wrote, "The Mark of Gruenwald, alas." Well, that's a relief. I remembered the origin point of that name (along with "Medusalith Aquelin" if I recall correctly) being the Byrne-era Fantastic Four Annual #18, and I was thinking, "This thread is not going to end well..."
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Jason Czeskleba
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| Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:06pm | IP Logged | 2
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I read that annual in 1984, but I must have blotted those names out of my mind. I would have been surprised to find out it was JB's idea, since it runs contrary to the general aesthetic he espouses here regularly. It's sad that these types of fannish lapses in judgment have gone from being the exception to the norm.
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 23 November 2009 at 4:14am | IP Logged | 3
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Medusalith is worse than Blackagar in my opinion (although they are both awful), as it requires the huge coincidence of the Terrigen Mist randomly causing powers that match the name, rather than the name being adopted to match the powers. Terrigen Mist, in contrast, is one of the most evocative names in comics.
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Jason Czeskleba
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| Posted: 23 November 2009 at 4:57am | IP Logged | 4
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Well, I always figured "Medusa" was her given name (there's no indication otherwise in anything published before that FF Annual, as far as I know). And that would require just as much of a coincidence after the Terrigen Mists retcon.
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Simon Bucher-Jones
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| Posted: 23 November 2009 at 8:09am | IP Logged | 5
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If the tendency to respond to terrigen mist, in a certain way, is genetic - and clearly very substantial divergences are going to be bred out by not being able to breed with any other of their generation - eventually 'families' might be come connected with a specific type of mutation, not because it was certain but because in was say 5% more likely to occur in their family than in others in which case if the name Medusalith was inherited..... Sheesh what a mess. Simon BJ
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Mike Norris
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| Posted: 23 November 2009 at 4:34pm | IP Logged | 6
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I didn't recall it originated in a book JB had plotted. My money was on it being created for the Handbook.
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Ray Brady
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Did anyone ever bother to explain why the Royal Family wear masks?
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Michael Todd
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Yes, I do recall a story where that was explained, it had something to do with the fact that all of them except Triton looked more or less human.
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Jason Czeskleba
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| Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:20pm | IP Logged | 9
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See, I'm of the opinion that there doesn't need to be an explanation for why they wear masks, or for why their given names sound like super-hero names. They just do. Needing to explain everything that doesn't seem realistic enough is the type of fannish excess I was talking about upthread.
Edited by Jason Czeskleba on 23 November 2009 at 7:27pm
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Robert Bradley
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Sometimes a comic book is just a comic book. Right Jason?
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Jason Czeskleba
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Exactly. "Blackagar Boltagon" is explaining something that should be just accepted and ignored rather than explained. Similar to the Julie Schwartz-era story that explained Clark Kent subconsciously hypnotizes people so that they do not recognize his resemblance to Superman.
Edited by Jason Czeskleba on 23 November 2009 at 8:42pm
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Paul Kimball
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Similar to the Julie Schwartz-era story that explained Clark Kent
subconsciously hypnotizes people so that they do not recognize his
resemblance to Superman.
++++++++++++++++I really liked that story.
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