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Matt Reed
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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 11:12am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I cast my vote with those who would like to see the standard comic book page.  There's just something about it combined with the material that makes it feel classic.  

Great idea and even better execution, JB.  Really loving looking at your work here. 
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Michael Arndt
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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 11:24am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I vote for the comic page format.

What I have seen so far looks great and fun.

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Rick Senger
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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 12:08pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

how should I format it?
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Assuming this project is a labor of love, I'd go with whatever format makes the task easier for you.

Interesting point about shirtless Kirk in his first regular episode scene.  Not to hijack, but it made me think about his wrapped hand at the end of "Where No Man..."; I know his ribs were wrapped in "Journey to Babel," but did Kirk ever get any other bandages or wrappings in all the fights over the other 79 episodes?   Bad Kirk in "The Enemy Within" didn't rate one despite some pretty deep scratches, though Lazarus got one for a seemingly minor forehead wound in "The Altnernative Factor."
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 12:34pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Here's another page -- and it may be the last, dagnabbit, at least for this story. TREKCore skipped a few shots immediately following this, so there's no proper way to do the next moments with Kirk and McCoy. Grrrr.

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It should be noted that there are both DVD and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray screencaps at TREKCore.

One gallery may be more extensive for a given episode than the other.

Looking at "Corbomite"'s HD screencap gallery (26 pages vs. the DVD's 16), it looks like the shots you seek would be there.

 

I'm not sure how well the standard and HD shots would mesh, but you could mix-and-match to get all of the frames and angles you want. If the DVD gallery doesn't have a shot, the HD gallery might, and vice-versa.



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John Byrne

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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 12:38pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Okay, I "built" the missing shots -- some of you will immediately know where I got the pieces -- and produced another page.

Dialog gets a little busy, hope it's not too hard to follow. And altho it's an accurate representation of the scene, I'm not thrilled with the straight duplication of Bailey from one panel to the next at the end of the page.

Also -- seeing the first red flag on my plan to use "open borders" on the balloons.

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Love the "talking to myself" panel! The fifth panel is maybe too crowded and, yes, the duplication is a little jarring. Overall, still works for me.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 12:47pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

The fifth panel is maybe too crowded…

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Would have worked better for me, too, if whoever picked the images for TREKCore had gone with the full shot, instead of the closeup!

It's frustrating -- on later episodes, they go for so many shots it's almost frame to frame. But with these early ones, it's slim (and seemingly arbitrary) pickings!!

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John Byrne

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Posted: 14 February 2013 at 6:24am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

It should be noted that there are both DVD and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray screencaps at TREKCore.

One gallery may be more extensive for a given episode than the other.

Looking at "Corbomite"'s HD screencap gallery (26 pages vs. the DVD's 16), it looks like the shots you seek would be there.

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Boy, I really had to DIG to find the Blu-Ray shots -- and even there, the scenes I need are not the ones selected!

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The fifth panel is maybe too crowded and, yes, the duplication is a little jarring.

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The Blu-Ray shots only confirm that Bailey scarcely moves in that scene. They DO, however, provide the NEXT shot I need if I want to continue this exercise:

I may rebuild the bottom tier of my most recent page in order to take advantage of this.

Truly Hi-Def images* being available raises another question, tho: Do I rebuild ALL the pages, at an appropriate size for actual publication? No reason to do so, of course, except to scratch that particular itch. No one is likely to want to publish this in actual comicbook form, and the font size would be considerably smaller, creating a potential reading difficulty when the pages are reduced to be posted here.

Mind you, the question is rendered somewhat moot, as the Blu-Ray images have the computer generated Enterprise, not the real one._________

* For some reason the files I have been using are labeled HD, but clearly are not.

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 14 February 2013 at 6:36am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

 if I want to continue this exercise

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Exercise is good for you (and us)!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 14 February 2013 at 7:03am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Okay, so here's the reworked page. . .

Still not a whole lot I can do with that first/sixth panel, unfortunately.

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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 14 February 2013 at 9:22am | IP Logged | 11 post reply


I like the standard comic book approach for this project.  I think the the strength of that format is that you can pace the story like a real comic book, JB.

This is so fun!! 


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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 14 February 2013 at 9:43am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

This is really cool! Thanks for sharing it with us, JB!
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