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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 05 August 2017 at 2:30pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply


No!  No "pre" anything!  Enough with the TREK prequels, for the love of all that's holy!



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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 06 August 2017 at 11:00am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=57LmReEymG0
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Anthony J Lombardi
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Posted: 06 August 2017 at 11:50am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

If Discovery is going to turn the Klingons into ISIS that is going to be a HUGE mistake.
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Jason Stephens
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Posted: 09 August 2017 at 10:43pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I must say the re-imagined Klingons look as bad as the Remans.
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 22 August 2017 at 5:49pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Hey, if anyone still cares, a new trailer has been out for, like, a week. Also, the show is rated "TV-MA".
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Ted Downum
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Posted: 23 August 2017 at 4:07pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Greg Kirkman: Hey, if anyone still cares, a new trailer has been out for, like, a week.

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Yep, and it still looks dreadful.

I guess it's possible (though vanishingly unlikely) that Discovery might still surprise us all, but--assuming that it turns out to be as gloomy, Abramsesque, and full o' 'splosions as the promos have suggested--I'm already regretting the waste of such a great cast on such a poor excuse for Star Trek.

Martin-Green, Yeoh, Isaacs, Jones, Rapp, Frain, etc., in a show closer to the original-series spirit, with some optimism and fun? That I would be excited about watching.
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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 23 August 2017 at 5:37pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Is it sad that I'm more looking forward to THE ORVILLE than I am an actual Star Trek show, and still would be even if the ST series was on normal television rather than a subscription streaming service?


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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 23 August 2017 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Hell, let's make it simple. Is this a show are going to pay to see? Netflix just barely gets away with it. I don't know that it'll work for CBS.

I mean, I'm not an expert on pay subscription TV... but I know I hate paying for CABLE/SATELLITE TV without a reasonable alternative. This may collapse of its own weight, without any structure to the show to support it...
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Andrew Saxon
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Posted: 24 August 2017 at 8:41am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Because of my interest in Star Trek, Facebook today suggested a Discovery fan group to me. While I myself have no interest in joining I did note that there were already (at time of writing) 10,333 members...for a series that hasn't even aired yet and could be complete and utter rubbish.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 August 2017 at 10:45am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I call that thr "Darth Maul Effect". Remember how STAR WARS fans went nutz over that character before we'd seen anything more than a few pictures?
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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 24 August 2017 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Of course, the opposite effect - the "Lone Ranger Effect" or "John Carter Effect" - plays fully today too. People are willing to completely write off a movie or show purely on word of mouth without giving it ANY chance.

Two sides of a beastly coin. Two-Face would be pleased.
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 24 August 2017 at 6:06pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

That seems to be more and more of a thing in today's spoiler-obsessed and discussion-obsessed nerd culture. Instead of being teased by promotional materials, and waiting to actually see the product, fans obsess over every little news tibdit, and build elaborate fantasies about what they hope and expect a property to be. They read way too much into even the briefest of trailers and news stories.

It all too often tends to be an exercise in ridiculous expectations and pipe-dream fantasies, which lead to inevitable disappointment. In the case of DISCOVERY, I've seen any number of discussion/speculation videos and Podcasts in which fans go through all sorts of mental gymnastics to convince themselves that the show will adhere to canon (despite all evidence to the contrary) and pumping themselves up about how great the characters will be (despite our knowing virtually nothing about them).

People just can't wait to see if something will even be good, anymore. The hype train becomes more important than the final product. Fans emotionally invest in what they think and hope a product will be, rather than waiting to see what it actually is.


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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 08 September 2017 at 12:20pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/09/08/star-trek-discovery- trumps-america/
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Jozef Brandt
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Posted: 08 September 2017 at 1:52pm | IP Logged | 14 post reply


Wow Greg, they just keep working harder and harder to make sure I don't watch.  Strange approach.
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 09 September 2017 at 12:47am | IP Logged | 15 post reply

Wow, it's pretty brave to say goodbye to at least 30% of your potential audience before the show has even started.
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Ron Goad
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Posted: 09 September 2017 at 10:03am | IP Logged | 16 post reply

Ah! But, they'll get all of about 20 new viewers from doing that!

What a plan...
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Paul Kimball
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Posted: 09 September 2017 at 10:10am | IP Logged | 17 post reply

Of course, the opposite effect - the "Lone Ranger Effect" or "John Carter
Effect" - plays fully today too. People are willing to completely write off a
movie or show purely on word of mouth without giving it ANY chance.

Two sides of a beastly coin. Two-Face would be pleased.
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I know I've done that before so I'm going to make an effort to not make up
mind based on reviews/previews and it give it a real chance.
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Marten van Wier
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Posted: 14 September 2017 at 9:41am | IP Logged | 18 post reply

Well, some more info on the Klingon Sarcophagus ship.
Apparently it is covered in dead bodies!

http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/09/klingon-sarcophagus-ship-se crets-revealed-in-new-star-trek-discovery-producer-interview /

Personally some of the revelations in this article neither add something to Star Trek lore to me or detract from, it is simply meh.
All these changes to an existing Star Trek species seem pretty pointless to me. Why do the Klingons need to be reinvented again?
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Robbie Parry
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Posted: 14 September 2017 at 9:59am | IP Logged | 19 post reply

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Tim Cousar
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Posted: 14 September 2017 at 10:20am | IP Logged | 20 post reply

Try this link.
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 14 September 2017 at 11:57am | IP Logged | 21 post reply

DISCOVERY is not being pre-screened for critics. Take that as you will.
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 14 September 2017 at 12:25pm | IP Logged | 22 post reply

I still want the show that Bryan Fuller described. 
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Steve De Young
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Posted: 14 September 2017 at 1:55pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

I'm not really high on this show, but I like what they did for the theme music.

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Steve De Young
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Posted: 14 September 2017 at 2:00pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

A couple other straws at which I'm currently grasping:


This phaser looks right.
 
And this communicator looks right.

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Brian Miller
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Posted: 14 September 2017 at 5:21pm | IP Logged | 25 post reply

Is this set in the Abrams-verse?
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