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Rob Ocelot
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Posted: 11 August 2016 at 2:27pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

LOWER DECKS and FIRST CONTACT (episode) were interesting diversions from the standard STAR TREK formula that focuses entirely on the viewpoint of the bridge crew and the Captain in particular.

An entire show structured like that?  Not sure I'd be interested in having the Captain of the ship as a secondary character basically set up to provide drama for the main character.  These types of secondary characters tend to be written in ways that falsely prop up the other characters -- ie typical dumb/ignorant/tyrannical boss/company man type of role.

How about a STAR TREK show that is written like STAR TREK?  Is that too radical an idea?
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Joie Simmons
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Posted: 11 August 2016 at 7:29pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

There's no way a show could work where the main
character didn't have anything to do with the
solution to whatever problem there is. But if
she was first officer, or third in command,that
would be good. Instead of the captain being the
focus, he/she could be a bigger character and
show how the crew respects and learns from him,
or her.
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Joseph Greathouse
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Posted: 12 August 2016 at 8:33am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I like the idea of making the Captain a secondary figure. They really are not there to micromanage every situation that comes across. 
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Ted Downum
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I think the idea has a lot of merit. THE WEST WING comes to mind--on the surface, a show about the White House, but the focus was less on the President himself than on the senior White House staff. I could see a STAR TREK series set up in something like the same way, with the stories giving more weight to the activities of the exec, the chief engineer, the medical officer, et cetera, and how they work together as a group. More of an ensemble approach than we've seen from TREK in the past, in other words.

Edited by Ted Downum on 12 August 2016 at 10:25am
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Joie Simmons
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Posted: 12 August 2016 at 10:27am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Exactly. Let the captain be important to everyone.
They could have the first officer call a meeting, saying the captain is
in Engineering but wanted this or that done and go from there, watch
the crew make it happen. Have it seem like the captain is really in
charge of the whole ship.
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 12 August 2016 at 9:48pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Okay, so, if this show is set some ten years before TOS (and therefore some three years after "The Cage"), then they'd better get the uniforms, equipment, and general aesthetic somewhere within the ballpark of the two TOS pilots. Also, this means that the Enterprise and its "Cage"-era crew are potentially in play, here. Hmmm.
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Ted Downum
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Greg wrote: ...then they'd better get the uniforms, equipment, and general aesthetic somewhere within the ballpark of the two TOS pilots.

*****

Amen to that. I hope that, at very least, the production makes more than a cursory effort to get the look right. A few 21st-century updates (3D control panels/displays or something) are probably inevitable, but I could live with that if everything else looks and sounds more or less period-appropriate.
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Marten van Wier
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Posted: 13 August 2016 at 9:10pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

You do all of course know that that will never happen right?

I doubt they will make the new ship look slightly less advanced than Pike's era Enterprise.
If anything it will probably be on the level of TMP/WOK level Enterprise or perhaps even around the time of TUC style starships.
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Luke Styer
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What interests me about this Lt. Commander idea is the opportunity to watch a primary character grow into command. Lt. Commander is a high enough rank that she should have a little weight to throw around right from the start, and with this "novel" approach subsequent seasons could jump a few years ahead to trace her rise through the ranks.
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Mischa Benedict Welsh
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Posted: 30 August 2016 at 4:41am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Interesting developments - the female protagonist of ST:Discovery is going to be The Cage's Number One...

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Michael Casselman
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Posted: 30 August 2016 at 6:15am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Named "in honor of" The Cage's Number One.
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Sam Karns
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Posted: 31 August 2016 at 3:38pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

The Trek team have been reading Mr. Byrne's CREW. 

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Joie Simmons
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Posted: 01 September 2016 at 5:59am | IP Logged | 13 post reply

Let's hope the show is good, actually, great. That way it can be its
own show. My fear is with a prequel show, if the ratings aren't the
absolute best and the reviews aren't stellar that Paramount is going
to demand that this show take a direct course to the original Star
Trek.
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Tim Cousar
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Posted: 14 September 2016 at 3:48pm | IP Logged | 14 post reply

I have a bad feeling about this: debut delayed
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Luke Styer
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Posted: 22 September 2016 at 6:27am | IP Logged | 15 post reply

The delay didn't particularly surprise me. As late as August they were still talking about casting the lead role, which doesn't leave a lot of time before a January premier for a show that will presumably involve a lot of SFX.
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Rob Ocelot
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Posted: 27 September 2016 at 4:55pm | IP Logged | 16 post reply

Not to mention Bryan Fuller is busy currently shooting AMERICAN GODS in Toronto.  How the heck was STAR TREK supposed to fit around that schedule?  

My guess is ST:D was announced like this to ride the wave of the 50th and this year's movie but there really wasn't a serious intention to deliver in January 2017.   At this rate they might have only half a pilot done by next May.
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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 27 September 2016 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply


Oh shit! "ST:D?" What an unfortunate abbreviation! Didn't even catch that until now!

(No pun intended...)


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Rob Ocelot
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Posted: 27 September 2016 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | 18 post reply

I only noticed it after I wrote it.  :-(
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 27 September 2016 at 8:38pm | IP Logged | 19 post reply

INTO DARKNESS--STID--almost got there first!
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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 27 September 2016 at 8:48pm | IP Logged | 20 post reply


Well, INTO DARKNESS has been known to make many a Trekkie break-out with an uncomfortable rash.


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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 28 September 2016 at 8:48am | IP Logged | 21 post reply

And that it came from a great big di... well, you know. :) :) :)
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Tim Cousar
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Posted: 26 October 2016 at 6:21pm | IP Logged | 22 post reply

This occurrence might end this thread: New Trek Show Loses Showrunner.

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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 26 October 2016 at 8:21pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply


I'm not entirely sure I was ever really in on this new iteration... but I'm certainly out now!

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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 26 October 2016 at 9:50pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

Well, now. This is certainly an unexpected development. Gonna be interesting to see how things play out. 
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Marten van Wier
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Posted: 27 October 2016 at 7:08am | IP Logged | 25 post reply

When I read in the article that Akiva Goldsman I had no idea who that was until I checked out the comment section and read that he was on "Batman & Robin", a couple of minutes later checking on imdb and I found out it was true.

He wrote the screenplay for that movie and is now in a big creative role on Star Trek Discovery.

I think someone challenged Reality and told it that it could not outdo any ridiculous scenario we humans can make up. We lost, again.
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