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Jaren Cole
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Posted: 02 April 2016 at 10:25am | IP Logged | 1 post reply


Iron Fist will open with billionaire Danny Rand returning to New York City after being missing for years: “He fights against the criminal element corrupting New York City with his incredible kung-fu mastery and ability to summon the awesome power of the fiery Iron Fist.”
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Isn't that the plot of Arrow season 1? Only Ollie was missing for 5 years, not 4. 

Haha
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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 22 July 2016 at 9:47am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Netflix released a teaser for Marvel's IRON FIST-


-C!
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Thom Price
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Posted: 08 October 2016 at 6:11pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Marvel's Iron Fist | NYCC Teaser Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sEJeWB3RA8
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Jaren Cole
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Posted: 08 October 2016 at 6:53pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

ALRIGHT!

Netflix Marvel is where it's at. 
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 08 October 2016 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I was hoping to see the mask. 

And I don't care for the subtle redesign of the chest emblem. 

Other than that, I'm pumped!!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 10 March 2017 at 5:07am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Getting resoundingly trashed by critics, I see.
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Anthony J Lombardi
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Because of the success the other Marvel/Netflix shows have had. I'm willing to be forgiving if the show isn't completely terrible. 
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Charles Valderrama
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Damn. I'm holding on to the hope that the reviews have been too harsh.
I really want IRON FIST to share the same success as the other three shows. (Especially since Danny's my favorite character among them.)

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Brian Rhodes
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Well, there seems to be consensus that all of the Marvel Netflix shows suffer from some kind of drag at some point in their seasons, but Season 1 of IRON FIST is apparently almost all drag. Worse, it's a Kung Fu action show evidently without a whole lot of Kung Fu action in it.

I wanted to like it. But I may have to take a pass. I liked both seasons of DAREDEVIL and enjoyed LUKE CAGE. I only watched the first few episodes of JESSICA JONES...and most reviewers are saying FIST is the worst of the bunch.
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Vinny Valenti
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Just read that the showrunner is the same guy that dragged DEXTER into the ground for the final few seasons. I may just have to give this one a pass. Wake me up when Danny meets Misty. 
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Anthony J Lombardi
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Since the review I read was about the first 6 episodes. I'm trying to remain optimistic about the remaining ones.
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Joe Zhang
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A while back the Social Justice Warriors were moaning about not casting Iron Fist with an Asian. Now it looks like that hypothetical Asian actor dodged a career killing bullet. 
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Steve De Young
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Since a lot of the reviews are full of idiotic garbage about cultural appropriation and supposed racism, I'm taking them with a grain of salt.
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Michael Roberts
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Since a lot of the reviews are full of idiotic garbage about cultural
appropriation and supposed racism, I'm taking them with a grain of salt.

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I've seen most of the reviews touch lightly on the issues of race and
cultural appropriation, but they are hardly the problem those critics
have with the show. What the reviews complain about is that the first
six episodes are too much a boardroom drama about Danny Rand
trying to reestablish his life in New York and win back control of his
family's company and not enough of an action series about a mystical
martial artist.
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James Woodcock
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Hmm, did they read JB's Namor and forget the super hero bits?
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Rick Whiting
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Hmm, did they read JB's Namor and forget the super hero bits?

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They didn't forget. They foolishly intentionally ignored those bits.
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James Woodcock
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There's a great line from Netflix where they say they wanted the dragon but couldn't afford it.

For crying out loud, give these things the budget they deserve. Did they not see the recent FLASH episode that had two CGI gorillas fighting? On a TV budget!!
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Steve De Young
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There's a great line from Netflix where they say they wanted the dragon but couldn't afford it.
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This is the same Netflix that just paid Dave Chappelle $60 million for two stand up specials recorded in one night, right?
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Michael Hogan
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Did they not see the recent FLASH episode that had two CGI gorillas fighting? On a TV budget!!
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And on a BASIC CABLE budget at that!
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Kevin Brown
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From what I just read, each Netflix/Marvel show only has a $40 million budget per season.  

And yet THE CROWN gets $140 million......

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Andrew Bitner
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I'll watch it this weekend, I expect.
And my Filipina wife, who was not happy about the Ancient One being played by Tilda Swinton, is untroubled by Finn Jones playing Danny Rand. "It's who he is in the comics," she said. "They aren't taking away a character who should have been Asian."
She gets it.
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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 17 March 2017 at 7:39am | IP Logged | 22 post reply

Scarlett Johannson being cast in GHOST IN THE SHELL is another matter, though - made worse by the use of eye makeup to try to make her appear to be more Asian.
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John Byrne

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…my Filipina wife, who was not happy about the Ancient One being played by Tilda Swinton, is untroubled by Finn Jones playing Danny Rand. "It's who he is in the comics," she said. "They aren't taking away a character who should have been Asian."

She gets it.

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All too often in cases like this, people confuse character and culture. Danny Rand grew up in a pseudo-Asian culture, but he, as a character, is caucasian.

A problem arises when people with agendas -- people who are clearly unfamiliar with the character as he appears in the comics -- apply incorrect interpretations to the dynamics of the tale being told. Since Danny is White, and the culture is not, it is assumed that he is a "White Savior" character. But nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, as "saviors" go, Danny falls WAY short, since the first thing he does upon attaining the power of the Iron Fist is. . .   LEAVE!

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I'm 3 episodes in.  Danny being white is the least of the problems.

So far the show seems intent on making Danny establishing his identity to Ward and Joy Meachum be the most compelling thing about it.  But it’s falling short and dragging out something that has no intrigue behind it at all.

And the flashbacks of the Rand family plane crash have be painfully bad.  Like it was shot by people who have never worked in TV or movies….ever.  Fight scenes are lackluster.  This is an editing issue because plenty of fight scenes with people who aren’t expert fighters LOOK jarring and exciting simply by camera angles and cuts.  It’s not the best way, but it can be done.  'Iron Fist' fight scenes feature the real actors in action….and moving like they were made of mud.  

So far the best thing about the show is the ‘Iron Fist’ hand FX.  It looks pretty cool when his hand glows from within.

There is an attempt at a plot twist already, but its fallen flat because nothing else up to this point has been remarkable enough to make you care.  So far, I have to admit the critics are right.  Lets see what the balance of the episodes have in store.
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JB: A problem arises when people with agendas -- people who are clearly unfamiliar with the character as he appears in the comics -- apply incorrect interpretations to the dynamics of the tale being told. Since Danny is White, and the culture is not, it is assumed that he is a "White Savior" character. But nothing could be further from the truth.

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Agree completely, JB.

And now I'm wondering, because I hadn't read IRON FIST back when--was Danny's background in K'un L'un a major part of his adventures? These days the origin of a hero keeps cropping up, to the point it feels like some origins never quite stop. When he was starting out, was it anything like that?
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