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Bob Simko
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Posted: 17 February 2018 at 4:40pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Loved it.
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Wallace Sellars
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Iím with Bob, Matt and Shaun. BLACK PANTHER is a wonderful
superhero movie. Itís beautiful! I enjoyed it more than IRON MAN.

Killmonger is a strong villain, and his introduction in the museum scene
was well done. (Yes, I know thatís not the first time we really see him,
but...)

The interaction between TíChalla and his family is natural, and their
affection for one another seems genuine. Lupita is beautiful. The world
may have given many people lenses that prevent them from seeing
that, but it is so true! Iím glad TíChallaís love interest looks like her.

Iím also excited to learn that early opening weekend numbers are
looking good. (Someone I know who went to see the movie in Atlanta
says that he, friends and and other moviegoers were given FIFTY
SHADES tickets when they paid to see THE BLACK PANTHER. Make
of that what you will.)

Look, Iím not saying that this movie has turned Black Panther into my
favorite superhero, but it and CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR may
have made him my favorite movie superhero. Iím definitely looking
forward to seeing more of him in future movies than any other
character.

Wakanda forever!
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 17 February 2018 at 10:16pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Now that spoiler tags are up, whatís up with the Wakandan kids calling Bucky ďWhite WolfĒ? Random Easter Egg, or is he going to end up with a suit?

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David Allen Perrin
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Mr. Byrne said:  ďThat doesn't sound like the T'Challa I know!Ē

In regards to Wakanda reaching out to the rest of the world, it wasnít what he wanted at first.  If you didnít see Civil War then you should know that it was King TíChaka who began outreach missions for Wakanda in that movie.

Thatís why Wakandans were in Lagos while the Avengers were tracking down Crossbones.  Thatís how the Wakandans were accidentally killed by Scarlet Witch.

TíChalla at that time was hesitant about Wakanda exposing itself.

And he was hesitant about the notion in ĎBlack Pantherí....until he met Killmonger and felt the disappointment in his fatherís actions as a younger king making a decision which drove Killmonger to such hate and rage. 

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Bill Collins
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Posted: 18 February 2018 at 7:59am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Just watched it and thoroughly enjoyed it.
A bit of trivia, Letitia Wright who plays T`Challa`s
sister lives in Wolverhampton, a local lass in
Hollywood!
It occurred to me that as the main cast is black apart
from Andy Serkis and Martin Freeman from The
Hobbit...they`re the Tolkien white guys ;-)
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Matt Reed
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The debut of BLACK PANTHER blew away even aggressively optimistic predictions as it opened with a staggering $192 million just on the domestic front:


With Monday being a holiday here in the states, it's projected to gross north of $210 mil for the four day opening.  Simply amazing.

International is in as well and there it grossed $169 mil for a total opening of $361 mil.  

To put it in perspective (all totals domestic), GOTG opened with $94.3 mil in 2014.  ANT-MAN opened with $57.2 mil in 2015. CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR grossed $179.1 its opening weekend in 2016. The original AVENGERS tops it at $207.4 mil in 2012, but BP is certainly in rarified air when compared to the MU cinematic opening weekends. 

Fun fact: BP has already grossed more in one weekend than ANT-MAN did in 22 weeks of domestic release ($180.2 mil).


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Bill Collins
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Glad to see Peter Rabbit bombing!
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David Allen Perrin
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That image of ĎWhite Wolfí is borderline offensive in itís awfulness.

Edited by David Allen Perrin on 18 February 2018 at 11:18am
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Dave Phelps
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So faithful (and isolationist) W'Kabi turns traitor in the movie and Man-Ape and Malice become good guys. Okay, then. Not entirely sure what Everett Ross was doing there.

Overall, It felt like Don MacGregor's Panther with a touch of Christopher Priest's gadgets, which is a good thing, and it's a HUGE plus that it didn't feel the need to mock itself. The only real downside for me is that, for some reason, I couldn't help but see the formula this time. Not sure why.
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 18 February 2018 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Man-Ape and Malice become good guys.

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Nakiaís storyline in the book is both icky and Lifetime movie-cliched. This is an instance where Iím glad they were unfaithful to the comics. Did not want to see POISON IVY 5: THE WAKANDAN FLOWER. 
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Marc M. Woolman
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The formula being so apparent is the reason I won't be
seeing this.
Also, as soon as the comics (and the movies) gave Black
Panther a vibranium weave in his costume, all logic went
out the window. Black Panther can't feel the impact of
any high caliber bullets but a regular strength person's
punch or klick can still hurt him???
Pass.
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Michael Roberts
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The formula being so apparent is the reason I won't be seeing this.

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Dude, we get it.
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Michael Roberts
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I will point out, however, that BLACK PANTHER is not the first IRON MAN, so despite your claims that you know the formula, you donít. 
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Bill Mimbu
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Posted: 18 February 2018 at 8:54pm | IP Logged | 14 post reply

Saw it today... Enjoyed it.

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Shawn Kane
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Black Panther has been one of my favorite characters since I started to look at my brother's Avengers comics before I could read. This movie does him justice and they seem to hit everything just right...the right amount of humor, a villain that you can hate but also sympathize with...supporting characters that add to the story rather than detract from it...It doesn't break my top five MCU films (all three Cap movies, Iron Man, the Avengers) but it may be #6.

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David Allen Perrin
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"Also, as soon as the comics (and the movies) gave Black 
Panther a vibranium weave in his costume, all logic went 
out the window. Black Panther can't feel the impact of 
any high caliber bullets but a regular strength person's 
punch or klick can still hurt him???
Pass."

"Comics!" 

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Bill Collins
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Well...it may be the custard effect! If you punch the
surface of a bowl of custard, your hand will bounce off
the surface,but your hand can gently slide into it.So
maybe the suit can absorb powerful hits such as bullets,
but punches are felt?If that`s not a good enough
explanation, like David said `Comics`

Edited by Bill Collins on 19 February 2018 at 12:45pm
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Wallace Sellars
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At times Captain America's vibranium (and adamantium?) shield has absorbed
the brunt of major impacts, and at other times he and the shield have been
knocked for a loop! Oh, and somehow the edge of the shield knows to bounce
off of things instead of coming to a dead stop union impact.

I wonder if that inconsistency has ever been the deciding factor when
someone declined to go see one of his movies.
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Doug Jones
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No explanation is needed because the premise is incorrect.

Having rewatched CIVIL WAR recently and now seen BLACK PANTHER multiple times, I cannot recall a single instance in which "a regular person" actually hits BP in costume, much less hurts him. Both Captain America and Winter Soldier kick BP hard enough to knock him back, but as shown in the MCU, they are far from "regular". 
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David Allen Perrin
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I am recalling the fight scenes in BP....

These may not be in correct order and I may miss one but here goes....

1. Ritual combat with M'Baku - no costume, no heart shaped herb - he was never punched while in costume.

2. Korean Casino - No costume for the hand to hand fighting, costume for the car chase - he was shot at many times but never punched in costume

3. Ritual combat with Erik - no costume, no heart shaped herb - he was never punched while in costume.

4. W'Kabi's rebellion - Warriors were armed with vibranium weapons- he was struck many times by large canons, blades and armored rhinos (!) - he was in costume fighting against foes with similar tech

5. Final showdown with Erik - Both are in Panther suits....while the sonic disruptors of the train system disabled their abilities intermittently - Again, no normal person struck him while wearing a fully functioning suit

Klaw was armed with a weapon derived from a vibranium mining tool...so clearly it was capable of damaging vibranium.  W'kabi's warriors all had what would appear to be vibranium weapons and Panther's claws damaged Cap's shield.  It's clear that in the MCU if you wanna damage vibranium, you use vibranium.

So unless I left something out....

@Marc - Are you sure about your statement?



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David something tells me your facts aren't going to matter.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/19/black -panther-all-the-box-office-records-it-broke-and-almost-brok e-in-its-235m-debut/
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David Allen Perrin
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@Doug Jones - Keep in mind also that his suit in Civil War was his OLD design!  

Shuri gave him the upgraded suit in 'Black Panther' that absorbs kinetic energy.  

@Paul Kimball - Yeah.
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Matt Reed
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Actuals are in for the 3-Day Opening and they push those numbers above the $200 mil mark (I'm posting just the top five this time):


Estimates are in for the 4-Day opening and they're HUGE:


Mind-blowing.

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Brian Miller
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Just got out. Loved it! Top tier Marvel movie. So good. 
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