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Matt Reed
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Posted: March 27 2017 at 12:54pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

By a 31-1 vote, the NFL owners approved the Oakland Raiders move to Vegas.  Their new $1.9 billion stadium will open in 2020, so they'll continue playing in Oakland until then.  This is the third franchise move in just 14 months with the Rams & the Chargers move to LA being the other two. Link

Not a Raiders fan, although the team is finally fun to watch for the first time in forever.  Thoughts?
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Brian Miller
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Posted: March 27 2017 at 1:36pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I wonder who the one vote was.
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Doug Centers
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Posted: March 27 2017 at 4:45pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Three Super Bowl wins, numerous playoff appearances an ardent fan base, a distinct team culture copied many times over by other sports teams. Yet just could not keep the team in Oakland, this is the third franchise move since 1982. Maybe Vegas is the answer for this rendition.
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: March 27 2017 at 5:22pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

As someone born and raised in San Diego, I am torn between
schadenfreude over local Raider fans losing their team and
disappointment over the idea that Mark Davis got what he wanted. At
least disappointed Charger fans got some small sense of satisfaction
that Spanos' team is going to play second fiddle in a market that
doesn't seem that interested in the Rams.
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John Popa
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Posted: March 27 2017 at 6:21pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

The one vote against the move was the owner of the Dolphins.

I can't imagine playing two more years in the city you've already said you're leaving.  
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Brian Hunt
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Posted: March 27 2017 at 11:00pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

This move makes little sense to me, but I'm not an owner
that will be splitting the almost $700 million in
relocation fees. It doesn't make a lot of sense on the
surface to leave the nations 6th largest media market
for the 40th largest media market and take on the debt
created by an almost $2 billion dollar stadium. It tells
me that the NFL is fully embracing the fact that it is a
national television brand now, and not limited to any
region.
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Ryan Maxwell
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Posted: March 28 2017 at 6:11am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

 I was born and raised a Raider fan in a Raider household. They moved to Los Angeles when I was nine years old and I felt completely betrayed.   At that point nearly my entire family became 49er fans. When they came back to Oakland, I couldn't care less and completely ignored them. I have since married a Raider fan so this move has definitely hit home quite a bit for me. The Bay Area is worse off without the Raiders. Their poor fans are some of the best of any team in any sport, and they were completely shit on yesterday.  I can't see Las Vegas ever having fans as fiercely loyal as I've lived around my entire life.  

For people visiting Vegas, are you going to want to haul yourself out of your hotel bed early on a Sunday morning after a night of partying to make a 1pm kick off?  Are current fans willing to spend the now extra hundreds or thousands of dollars it will take per game just to get and stay there?
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: March 28 2017 at 8:50am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

It doesn't make a lot of sense on the surface to leave the nations 6th
largest media market for the 40th largest media market and take on the
debt created by an almost $2 billion dollar stadium.

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The key is that the city of Vegas is stupid enough to put almost $950
million of its own money into building that stadium. Economists state
over and over again that publicly financed stadiums are a bad idea
because the benefits to the city rarely outweigh the construction and
maintenance bills they get stuck with. It makes even less sense for
Vegas, which is already a destination city. Hopefully the whole Las
Vegas Raiders project fails spectacularly and quite visibly, so that
billionaire NFL owners can stop expecting handouts from taxpayers
when they want a new stadium.
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Jeremy Simington
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Posted: March 28 2017 at 6:43pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Another NFL team duping taxpayers into paying for a stadium that they'll never see a return on.  It's a pretty ingenious scam, but still vile.
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Brian Floyd
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Posted: March 29 2017 at 11:33am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I made a joke elsewhere that when they move, they should add a bib to the helmet logo and change their name to the Las Vegas Buffet Raiders.
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