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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 July 2017 at 2:39pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I remember when one came out every year! Every Xmas until THUNDERBALL.
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Michael Penn
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Bond 4 in 1965 would've been enough Bond to last me my whole life.

It rather mostly is, since I hardly watch anything but those first four movies.

In any event, Daniel Craig is, to my taste, the first actor since Connery whom I think is "ok" in the role.
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Robbie Parry
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Wonder if they'll make the 25th film extra-special. I'd say send Bond into space for that film - but they already did that!

I quite like the novel "Icebreaker". Wouldn't mind an adaptation of that.
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Kevin Brown
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Posted: 24 July 2017 at 8:44pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

And Daniel Craig will be returning as 007!
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Tim O'Neill
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I don't think Daniel Craig is confirmed yet.



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Petter Myhr Ness
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Craig is definitely not confirmed. They said all such announcements would come later.

But if I have to speculate, I'd say Craig is one of the reasons why it's taken so long to announce the movie in the first place. Broccoli and Wilson clearly want him to continue.
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John Byrne

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Not a fan of Craig as Bond. Kind of redundant to say that, really, since I'm not a fan of any of the Bonds since Connery (with a slight allowance for Dalton).

Craig's Bond, much like Brosnan's, comes across to me as someone copping an attitude.

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Robbie Parry
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I agree with that.

I also miss the humour. Each Bond had a different humour (Dalton's was much more subtle and dry). But can anyone name a humorous comment in QUANTUM OF SOLACE or SKYFALL?

I also feel that nowadays, Bond is no longer unique. In the 60s/70s/80s, he was head and shoulders above the pack. Sure, there were "rivals" on TV and in film, but to use a sports analogy, Bond was the "world champion of spies", the rest were not. Nowadays, well the likes of THE FAST AND the FURIOUS are having Bond-style adventures (glitz, glamour, exotic locations, women, gadgets, international intrigue, etc.).

Bond, to me, is sadly no longer unique.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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I'm always in for a new Bond.
As a kid i tried it because i liked Roger Moore in the Saint and because i heard of the James Bond movies and was curious about it.
The stories from the novels are sometime better than the ones from the movies (not always) but the character is not sympathetic and not as interesting as are Roger Moore, Sean Connery or Daniel Craig incarnating him.
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Robbie Parry
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I much prefer the newspaper strip of THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN to the film. I don't know about elsewhere, but I think Titan reprinted TMWTGG newspaper strip in the UK. It's well worth a read. 
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John Byrne

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Just ordered the Titan TMWTGG. Thanks for the heads up.
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Shaun Barry
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I had to admit recently that I'm just not a big fan of Daniel Craig as James Bond, and he's probably my least favorite actor in the role.  Not that's he's bad or unwatchable, just doesn't seem like a good fit.  Doesn't help that I'm not the biggest fan of his BOND films, either, with the possible exception of CASINO ROYALE.  But even in that one he's such a sourpuss...!



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Petter Myhr Ness
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The last time I was excited about a new Bond, was with Timothy Dalton. I really liked him in the role. After Moore, he was definitely a step in the right direction - and much better than both Brosnan and Craig.

Before Craig was announced, my top choice was Clive Owen. Everything was so right that I couldn't believe someone else got the part!

I think now would be a good time for a new actor to take on the part, but I fear Craig is being way too much money for him to quit. My top choice right now would have to be Michael Fassbender (with Owen already having passed 50).
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Robbie Parry
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The last time I was excited about a new Bond, was with Timothy Dalton.

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So did I.

I envisioned many films. How little we all knew that the "Dalton Era" would be a mere two films. 
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Shaun Barry
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Timothy Dalton really was a "man out of time" when it came to his BOND casting.  A VIEW TO A KILL really isn't all that bad... but substitute the woe-some duo of Roger Moore & Tanya Roberts with Dalton and Maryam D'Abo instead, and it might be elevated to a good, solid entry.

Keep Dalton around long enough and cast him in GOLDENEYE instead of Pierce Brosnan, and you might even have a great BOND film.





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Robbie Parry
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Years ago, on a movie forum, I asked similar questions. I imagined what it'd have been like if the actors had come in a film early - or stayed for one film.

So, Connery in OHMSS. Lazenby in LALD. Moore in TLD. Dalton in GOLDENEYE.

Or, if a film early, the likes of Dalton in AVTAK, that sort of thing.

I think OHMSS would have been one of the best Bond films ever had Connery done it. I'd have certainly watched Dalton in either AVTAK or GOLDENEYE. 
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(But... but... Robbie, I happen to think OHMSS is one of the best Bond films ever!)



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Robbie Parry
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I like it, but Lazenby looked too youthful - and didn't feel like Bond. I guess he felt like an Earth-2 Bond.

It's a good film, but I wonder what it'd have been like if Connery had played the role. 
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Brian Floyd
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Just like Petter, I was hoping they'd cast Clive Owen as Bond when Brosnan left the role.

Daniel Craig is passable, but I like Connery, Brosnan and Dalton more as Bond. (Yes, I like Dalton despite him being in two of the worst Bond films.)

Moore I felt stayed two or three movies longer than he should have, and his version of Bond came off a bit too pompous at times. 









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Shane Matlock
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Add me to the list of folks who was hoping Clive Owen would've been Bond instead of Craig. I'd still like to see him as Bond but at 52 he's getting up there. Then again Craig is 49 himself. 
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Kevin Brown
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I would have been fine with Owen, but I was hoping to see Gerard Butler take over the role before Craig got it.
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Rodrigo castellanos
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I much prefer the newspaper strip of THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN to the film. I don't know about elsewhere, but I think Titan reprinted TMWTGG newspaper strip in the UK. It's well worth a read. 

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That's the first Bond strip I read, found it on a used bookshop.

Yaroslav Horak's clean, crisp art and gorgeous women amaze me to this day. Hadn't seen the movie at that point, so it was all new to me. 


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Brian Floyd
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In the original story, isn't the golden gun a gold-plated revolver, rather than a gold colored gun assembled from different items?


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Mark Waldman
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Like many, I'm a huge Bond fan and have been since I got to watch the old Connery films on the television - edited - back when I was a kid. As I grew up, Roger was my Bond but I understood Connery was the original and his Bond was more serious. I was also a big fan of Simon Templar, so while it would have been interesting to see that era Roger take on the Bond character, I was happy to see Simon Templar try to embody Bond. 

Also like many, I thought Clive Owen would have been a great choice, while perhaps some personal grooming would have been needed. Haha. Shaggy, unshaven fellow that he is. I was skeptical about Craig but have grown to appreciate him - it seems, perhaps a minority on this forum.

To me, while Roger is an all-time great TV and cinema hero for me, Craig brings Bond back to more of what the novels and Connery portrayed. I don't want to turn this into an argument against any who may disagree, but that's my opinion. I didn't really appreciate Casino Royale to later viewings, now it's probably my second favorite Bond film, following From Russia with Love. I'm also a big Skyfall fan and enjoyed Spectre more than most. Flawed, for sure, but lots of good chunks in there that put it among my favorite Bonds.

I was interested in Tom Hardy as Bond after seeing Mad Max, of all things, and he's still young enough to have his crack after #25. I think Craig could have walked away as his arc came to a close, but am happy he'll seemingly do at least one more.

Let's all accept one another's preferences and embrace the coolness that is Bond. Exotic locales, excitement, beautiful women, those cars, awesome watches, clothes, etc., etc.

I'll end by saying OHMSS was a favorite of mine for a long time, mostly because it had - egads, a story?! - but Lazenby was always the weakest part of the film. He resembled Bond, but couldn't act, wasn't charismatic and when he wore the kilt and ruffled shirt, he lost me. Haha. Lots of good stuff in the film, more or less in spite of him.

Dalton conjured up Fleming (even smoking after smoking was not popular anymore) but sadly had inferior scripts, unmotivated direction and what looked like low budgets. I agree, it would have been cool to see what could have been if he were put into the right movie at the right time.

Brosnan was ok to me - bringing out Roger's carefree attitude with a little dose of Connery. The movies he made were mostly hokey (although GoldenEye was solid) but all in all not awful. Clearly things were kicked up several notches with Craig, except for Quantum.

Anyhow, I love Bond and hope they keep coming, more frequently (like the old days). I'm revisiting many of the Fleming novels on my Kindle and having a great time. If you're looking to read any of those, I recommend Casino Royale, From Russia with Love and Moonraker, in that order. On Thunderball now. Carry on, gentlemen.
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Kevin Brown
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Daniel Craig is confirmed to be coming back for Bond 25:  LINK.
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