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John Byrne
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Posted: 10 November 2017 at 9:19am | IP Logged | 1
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When did our value system change to the point where as long as you’re a Republican, it’s ok to try to have sex with 14-year-olds?And not only that, to have people defend it using the Bible? ••• The Bible is one of the best places to find defenses for heinous deeds. Especially if one is willing to overlook the whole "Things were different back then" thaing.
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Charles Valderrama Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4720
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Posted: 10 November 2017 at 10:40am | IP Logged | 2
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When did our value system change to the point where as long as you’re a Republican, it’s ok to try to have sex with 14-year-olds?
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The clearest point was when Republicans backed Trump after the Access Hollywood tape.
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John Cole Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 02 March 2008 Location: United States Posts: 504
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Posted: 10 November 2017 at 12:12pm | IP Logged | 3
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Never seems to have been one call for Bill Clinton to step down no matter how many allegations of sexual impropriety against women that are made against him to this day what a shock.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 November 2017 at 12:18pm | IP Logged | 4
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Even the Washington Post report says that he never had sexual intercourse with any of the girls and never attempted sexual intercourse. ------------------------------------------------------------ -- That's a very specific set of wording I'm noticing in a lot of these allegations. Intercourse is not the only form of abuse. Smacks of Clinton and his 'sexual relations'
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David Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 November 2017 at 12:33pm | IP Logged | 5
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I roll my eyes whenever people bring up Bill Clinton's "abuses" with consenting adults, and a string of women bankrolled by right-wing millionaires.
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 November 2017 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | 6
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QUOTE:
"There is NO option to support to support Doug Jones, the Democratic nominee. When you do that, you are supporting the entire Democrat party." |
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It's really sad, isn't it? It's gotten to the point where the Democrats are viewed as a worse enemy than a hostile foreign power (the Russians) and supporting them is morally worse than voting for a child molester. There are probably Republicans who would vote for a member of ISIS before they'd vote Democratic. The right wing's extreme demonization of political opponents is bearing bitter fruit for our country.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 10 November 2017 at 12:45pm | IP Logged | 7
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Oh, please! Let's not make excuses for Slick Willy! He's a small time politician who never really managed to rise to the role of President. When a true history of the 20th Century is written, 9/11 will be seen as the legacy of Clinton's Age of Appeasement.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 November 2017 at 1:03pm | IP Logged | 8
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I roll my eyes whenever people bring up Bill Clinton's "abuses ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ You miss my point. I'm making a point about the use of words to swerve away from a point. Sexual relations vs sexual act Sexual intercourse against sexual abuse/assault - these have different legal meanings and I'm seeing a lot of people use the former as a defense when they are being accused of the latter.
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David Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 November 2017 at 8:19pm | IP Logged | 9
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James, I get ya. A defense that hinges on translucently-sliced (and desperate) legal semantics, especially related to age-of-consent federalism, may as well be a signed confession.
Moore's defenders have moved on from Biblical justifications to "it was only a one 14 year old, all he did was feel her up, and when is the WaComPost FAKENEWS going to report one of the accusers volunteered for Killary?"
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Eric Ladd Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 August 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 4506
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Posted: 11 November 2017 at 7:46am | IP Logged | 10
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I did like Bill Maher's comment last night."At least we know what the Republican age of consent it" Pure gold.
The defense of Moore by tongue twisters and the barrers of the double standard have got to go away. People are too willing to give away their morality and humanity in the name of blind loyalty.
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Don Zomberg Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 November 2017 at 12:05pm | IP Logged | 11
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His defenders have a point. This kind of stuff happens all the time in their Holy Book.
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Adam Schulman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 November 2017 at 12:27pm | IP Logged | 12
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And now, also, George Takei:
Let's not make excuses for anyone, regardless of their political leanings or their sexual orientation or anything else.
Sexual harassment is sexual harassment, period.
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