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Robbie Parry
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Posted: 12 January 2018 at 7:39am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

News from the Isle of Lewis:


If there's one thing that life has taught me, a majority of religious people want their EVERY whim catered to - without exception - but will actively seek to restrict the rights of others. 
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 12 January 2018 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

a majority of religious people want their EVERY whim catered to - without exception 
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You can't possibly make a claim to having this knowledge.

Edited to add: do you mean, the majority of religious people you've met? Even then, how can you know their wants so completely as to rule out any exceptions?

Sorry to pick -- your point is valid about religious people wanting to control others in a kind of hypocritical manner for the example you linked to -- but your statement is so hyperbolic, it's hard not to question it. 


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Peter Martin
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Posted: 12 January 2018 at 2:52pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Discussing your point more directly, remind me never to go to Lewis!
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Robbie Parry
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Posted: 12 January 2018 at 3:20pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I'm thinking of those I've known, but also those the media have covered:

The bakers who wouldn't bake a cake for a gay couple 
The British couple who wouldn't rent a B&B room to a gay couple
That nutty American woman who had a home birth as she didn't want to risk a gay nurse assisting her
A person on Twitter who claimed gay marriage should not have been made legal
The Irish business that wouldn't bake a cake for Gay Pride
The US clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples

And on and on...

It's not exactly a minority belief. Sure, religious groups such as Quakers have endorsed gay marriage, but from random tweeters and people I know of to those that the media have reported on, they haven't exactly covered themselves in glory.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 12 January 2018 at 7:27pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Yes, so anecdotally there are a good number in your sphere of experience that want to restrict the rights of others. I have no argument with such a statement.

It was the bit about them (that is, the billions of religious people the whole world over) wanting their EVERY whim without exception to be catered to. That seemed not just a doubtful claim, but a totally unknowable one.
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