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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 11 May 2018 at 5:40pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply


Early word on SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY is:


...surprisingly positive!



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Andrew Bitner
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JB: In 1977 I walked out of the theater with the sense of a long story. One about which I wanted to learn more. Then Lucas chose to tell us another story entirely.
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Sums up my feelings about the franchise, pretty much.

My wife saw SOLO at a press screening on Monday and she enjoyed it. She's not a hardcore SW fan but thought the film was a B to B+.
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Rick Whiting
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Posted: 17 May 2018 at 8:22pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Apparently (according to one of the co-writers of this movie) Lando is pansexual/sexually fluid because that's how the writers interpreted Billy Dee Williams (and now, Donal Glover's) portrayal of the character. Excuse me, did I miss something?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lando-calrissian-sexual -fluidity-solo-star-wars_us_5af77d59e4b00d7e4c1b37a9
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Matt Reed
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Posted: 17 May 2018 at 10:14pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I'm still not gonna see this in the theatre (can't say the same when it hits the home market via cable), but it's this kind of review that I can't really understand.  My hometown paper, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, gave SOLO 3.5 out of 4 stars and had this to say:


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It’s clever, light entertainment that shoots ahead as if it was launched from an intergalactic slingshot.

Most of the time, anyway. The famously troubled production fired its original directing/cowriting duo (Phil Lord and Christopher Miller of the excellent Lego and “Jump Street” fantasy comedies) for coloring outside the lines, delivering the studio a change from “Star Wars” movies that was too much of a change. That’s a shame, because I imagine their version would have been a self-mocking blast.

Can I say how tired I am of fans and critics wanting what they love to mock what came before?  Why?  That's a tightrope that's really hard to walk. More failures than successes to be sure.  LAND OF THE LOST anyone?  I will, however, invoke the 90s film version of THE BRADY BUNCH (work with me here).  That film played with the conventions of a traditional sitcom as well as the well-established tropes of that blended family to create something hard to come by: a film where we can both laugh at, with and cheer for the main characters.  In the end?  Their style and way of life (that of an out-of-date 60s family living in modern America) proved true and honest.  I wasn't much of a fan of the first JUMP STREET (heard the second was better) but those characters share nothing in common with their television counterparts except in premise and then it's just to mock the premise in a send-up of teen comedies and cop shows. 

I dunno.  I think you can play SOLO straight (which it appears is what Ron Howard did) and have a fun film without the need to mock the material. 

Link to the review mentioned above here.    
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 17 May 2018 at 11:14pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

You can play Solo straight, but not Lando apparently!
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James Woodcock
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I hate self mocking purely because it says you are an idiot for liking what came before. 

Just cause you didn’t get it doesn’t mean you have to be mean to those that did. & it’s not like any of these self mocking ideas have been a blast now is it
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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 19 May 2018 at 8:49am | IP Logged | 7 post reply


Is Lando pansexual?  Who knows, and I don't care.  If they play it in a smart, witty way, I'm sure I'll be the first the chuckle about it, in the new SOLO movie.

However, I never once got the feeling, in EMPIRE or JEDI, that Lando was the type of character who would screw anything that moved.  Not sure where this idea came from in the first place.



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John Byrne

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Posted: 19 May 2018 at 11:03am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Can I say how tired I am of fans and critics wanting what they love to mock what came before? Why?

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Because they are so, like, mature and ennui engorged they cannot enjoy things for what they were/are.

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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 25 May 2018 at 8:31am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Saw it last night. I thought it was a lot of fun, if inconsequential. I think the comparisons to the old Marvel Star Wars comics are apt. It doesn't really add anything to the STAR WARS franchise, but it doesn't take away or reinvent anything either.

The movie suffers a bit from originitis. Han's first meeting with Chewie, Han's first meeting with Lando, the Kessel Run, his acquisition of the Millennium Falcon, and even the acquisition of his signature blaster all pretty much happen within the same adventure. Also, Han comes across as having a lot of unearned confidence. Han's by-the-seat-of-his-pants swagger works with the seasoned smuggler we see in the original trilogy, but here he just seems to be bluffing his way through things a lot, and everyone goes along with it just because.

But once you get past those things, it's a fun heist movie.

I was pleased to see some casting that connected to both animated series as well.


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Bill Mimbu
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Posted: 25 May 2018 at 1:09pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Just got back from it.

Rather clumsy and a bit *forced* to about the halfway point, but definitely fun.    I certainly would be up for another adventure with this crew.

Now, if only that one background piece of the big bad's collection didn't bear the striking resemblance to a certain cartoon chihuahua...

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Trevor Krysak
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Posted: 25 May 2018 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I agree with Bill. It really is a tough set up to get to the meatier parts of the plot. The cast was quite good though so that helps.Donald Glover as Lando and Woody Harrelson as Beckett were the stand outs as far as I was concerned.

Alden Ehrenreich was decent as Solo. I was willing to accept this was the younger version of our favorite scoundrel and just go with it. It helped once the Han/Chewie dynamic really clicked. Emilia Clarke was decent although I'm always going to have trouble separating her from her GoT role. It doesn't help her character is mostly played as very controlled and unwilling to reveal details. The romance aspect was there but I'm not sure I ever bought them as a couple. Which is a problem. It's not enough to really affect the story.

I would be interested in them continuing on with a second movie. Might be a bit pointless but that didn't stop this film from being made. I doubt Ron Howard would be involved. If they have a bit more story to tell, and it seems like they do, there's some potential. They certainly left a few elements left to work with if a sequel becomes a possibility. It would be a case of diminishing returns as we get closer and closer to the original Star Wars but it's hard to say for sure.

Worth checking out if you're wanting a fun space adventure. If you're a Star Wars purist (whatever that is) this might not work for you. Go in with an open mind and you should have some fun.


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James Woodcock
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Posted: 25 May 2018 at 4:02pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I enjoyed it. A darn sight better than what came out last Christmas.

Some good characters who had hints to their backgrounds but not everything spelled out, some nods to old EU, & some bid surprises.

Yes there are a lot of ‘let’s answer this question’ type scenes but not so many that I didn’t enjoy the film. It is inconsequential (to a point) which makes it just a fun romp. It doesn’t have to service that big galactic opera that the saga films do. This is more like one of the side novels of old - & I say that as a good thing
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