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Brian Hague
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| Posted: 15 February 2018 at 7:23pm | IP Logged | 1
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One would think that the FF have gone up against enough temporally-savvy opponents that one of them might have detected a power-drain however slight and "sped it up" through time manipulation.
But then, Marvel only just thought of this. I do think that Ben has far less motivation to find Reed and Sue now, and might want to just chuck Johnny through a Negative Zone portal for a few weeks until his skin condition clears up and he can lead a normal life again.
On the whole, the thing seems as fannish and weirdly arbitrary as Ordway's attempts to slash the Marvel Family's powers whenever two or more of them were in battle at the same time.
As was mentioned earlier; fanboy overthink.
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William Costello
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| Posted: 15 February 2018 at 7:27pm | IP Logged | 2
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My comics come in monthly from Westfield comics, so I haven't received issues 2 or 3 of the Marvel-Two-In-One series.
Well, at least now I have some idea where they are going with this series.
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Jeffrey Rice
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| Posted: 15 February 2018 at 8:31pm | IP Logged | 3
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I guess Marvel thinks there needs to be some "excuse" to bring back a flagship title...
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Michael Hillie
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| Posted: 16 February 2018 at 7:10am | IP Logged | 4
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I think it'll turn out to be a psychosomatic or survivor's guilt kind of thing.
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Kevin Brown
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| Posted: 16 February 2018 at 8:00am | IP Logged | 5
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"New Wrinkle on FF, Apparently..."
Why? Nothing wrong with the characters, why add a "new wrinkle"? There was nothing wrong with them in how they were created. So stick with it.
As JB said, sigh...
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 16 February 2018 at 8:47am | IP Logged | 6
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The "why" is pretty simple. It's been several decades since the time when writers were content to simply carry the stories and characters forward, without overturning the apple cart.I blame MAN OF STEEL, in many respects. That seemed to set the template for "reboots", and SO many writers consider their assignment to a title to be a reboot. They want to "make their mark" on the characters, and they give little consideration to the FUTURE of those characters. As I have said before, writers and editors still ask "Wouldn't it be cool if. . . ", but there are few who ask the next very important question: "But then what?"
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Kevin Brown
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| Posted: 16 February 2018 at 9:20am | IP Logged | 7
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The new writers often confuse "growth" with "change".
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Eric Sofer
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| Posted: 16 February 2018 at 10:50am | IP Logged | 8
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And I find despicable the practice of writers who come onto a comic and immediately have to make it "their own" by radical changes.
What the hell ever happened to the idea of a new writer coming into the sandbox, playing with the toys as he likes, but leaving them the same toys, and then cleaning up and leaving it usable for the next writer? Are there not enough Fantastic Four stories to tell WITHOUT fouling up the basic concept?
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Robbie Parry
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| Posted: 16 February 2018 at 12:06pm | IP Logged | 9
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Agreed, Mr Sofer.
I know I peddle this a lot (sorry), but I still believe there are fresh stories to tell. Despite searching, I can find no record of a Fantastic Four VS Juggernaut battle. I'd love to see that (Reed, Sue, Ben and Johnny all utilising their talents against an unstoppable force).
Have the FF ever fought the Destroyer? Or the Mandarin?
And I'd pay good money to see the Thing battle Abomination.
These are all encounters I don't think have happened (if they did, they'd be rare). Those are great tales to tell.
And it applies to other superheroes. Instead of another "Year One" or "Year Zero" tale, I'd rather see fresh encounters, e.g. Superman VS Riddler (brains vs brawn) or Batman and Robin taking on Metallo.
Edited by Robbie Parry on 16 February 2018 at 12:07pm
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 16 February 2018 at 1:25pm | IP Logged | 10
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...fresh stories to tell...••• Here is another disadvantage of the greying of fandom. In the Silver Age, when the "lifespan" of a fan was thought to be about five years, writers could actually repeat stories, as when a Superman strip story -- Bizarro -- became a Superboy comic story.
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Robert Shepherd
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| Posted: 16 February 2018 at 2:54pm | IP Logged | 11
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I'd be ok with this new concept if it fit in with past story lines. So how long was Thing off on BattleWorld? 3 years? 1 year in comic book years?
Sue on family leave doesn't count since they would still have family holidays or get togethers and recharge.
So if the symbiotic effect wasn't noticed before because they have never been apart from each other for more than 1 to 3 years, it could make sense to be noticed only after the right amount of time of separation.
But.....even if that were true, thats too long of a time to matter in comic books. That like an eternity before you'd notice. |
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 16 February 2018 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | 12
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3 years? 1 year in comic book years? ••• Please don't do that!!
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