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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 07 June 2018 at 9:07am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I cannot think of any version of the Joker that would be suitable for a star in a movie. I understand that rooting for a villain may be in the public's favor these days - look at our government - but the Joker is completely wrong for this.

And Jared Leto was wrong as the Joker. Period. It may not have been his fault; he can only work with the script and directing he was given. (I recall Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face... another horrific performance, but I don't think it was Jones' fault.)

You want a villain movie? Use Mr. Byrne's Lex Luthor. We have a corporate thriller with a building full of motivated and competent employees - but one finds out one of Luthor's plans and feels morally obligated to report it to the authorities, or to Superman if possible. It can go a dozen different directions, all exciting IMO.

Sure, it might seem a Superman movie without Superman (although there's no reason the Man of Steel couldn't be in it), but I think it would make a fantastic thriller, with a few options for how it ends. THERE'S your villain movie.

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Adam Schulman
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Posted: 07 June 2018 at 6:58pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Talk about a movie I really DON'T want to see.

If there was only a way to de-age Jack Nicholson to show the youngsters how it's properly done.
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 13 June 2018 at 12:18pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Double the Jokers, double the jeopardy?





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Steve De Young
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Posted: 13 June 2018 at 12:33pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

So, apparently WB is doing some rebranding due to the lack of success of previous DC films.  This is not parody, they are planning to launch the two Joker movies under a new brand called either 'DC Dark' or 'DC Black'.

Well, maybe its self-parody, but they're actually going to do it.
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Petter Myhr Ness
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Posted: 13 June 2018 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Downright depressing news! 

I quit SUICIDE SQUAD after about 30 minutes, having witnessed the single most awful thing I've ever seen on film: Jared Leto's Joker. Anyone who saw that and went "Yeah, let's have more of THAT" must be certifiable. 
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Robert Shepherd
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Posted: 13 June 2018 at 6:25pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

So Joaquin Phoenix ??? Hmmm....he might be one actor who could pull off a "real" Joker, following Heath Ledger's awesome portrayal.

Leto sure didn't.

So I'm a pass on Leto, and a wait-and-see on Phoenix.


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Christopher Frost
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Posted: 14 June 2018 at 8:45pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

This is now all up in the air anyways since the new guy in charge of the DC films apparently isn't happy with the state of things and wants to change things up.
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Paul Kimball
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Posted: 14 June 2018 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I do think we need to remember in our criticism of Leto that I'm sure he didn't
write the script.
Now you could argue he agreed to it but who among us wouldn't be tempted
to be in a comic movie if we had the opportunity and maybe wouldn't read the
script closely enough.

On the topic of a Joker movie, I just don't see the Joker as having the kid of
personality to carry a film. Much like Gilbert Gottfried, how much maniaical
cackling can you take?
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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 14 June 2018 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

The only thing I could think of that would make sense to film would be a Joker origin movie. But do we really need yet another backstory reveal including a real name, and have to sit through an hour to an hour and a half plus before he actually becomes the Joker?


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Petter Myhr Ness
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Posted: 15 June 2018 at 2:25am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I do think we need to remember in our criticism of Leto that I'm sure he didn't write the script.
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True, but it doesn't render his performance any less awful.
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Jabari Lamar
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Posted: 27 August 2018 at 5:38pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply


TL;DR it's described as a "supporting role", and while the exact character is unnamed, it's rumored that he'll be playing Thomas Wayne.

"Baldwin joins a growing cast that includes Joaquin Phoenix in the title role, Robert De Niro, Frances Conroy, Marc Maron, and Zazie Beetz as Sophie Dumond. As has been previously reported, Phillips’ take on the famed DC character will possess a grittier, ’80s sensibility."
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Joseph Greathouse
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Posted: 27 August 2018 at 10:07pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Ya, I generally tend to be very tolerant (can't think of a better word) sight unseen when it comes to comic-based movies. This one actually has me shaking my head. I generally need a hero to root for. There are very few times a story centered on the villain has interested me.  This one certainly does not.
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