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John Byrne

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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 1:45pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Cheating a little bit, since it's an October cover date, which means it would likely have come out in July, but this is the first issue of BATMAN I ever bought, sixty years ago!!

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Robbie Parry
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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 1:58pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Great!

Covers like that did no doubt hook people. 

There's the intriguing title of "Rip Van Batman". And then there's the fact that Batman has grown up and is looking at a new Bat-team.

So one would feel they have to pick up the issue. I won't turn this into a rant about character pose covers in the modern era; I'll simply state that something like this hooks you, gets you intrigued - and all because you want to know what's happening.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 2:20pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Fascinating to see Curt Swan doing "Bob Kane", with the wonky drapery on the capes and the skewed perspective.
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Petter Myhr Ness
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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 3:30pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Wow! That's neat. Always nice to see art by Swan too. 
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 3:41pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Funny how the memory works. There's an instant recognition of the comics I bought or were bought for me by my mom off the rack. I got many issues from the same era from neighbor boys and had them just as long but those one's I got personally really ring the bell hard (40 years and counting).
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Andy Mokler
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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 4:15pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Fascinating to see Curt Swan doing "Bob Kane", with the wonky drapery on the capes and the skewed perspective.

Do you think that sort of continuity was a focal point back then?  Art style I mean, rather than characters.  It doesn't seem to be at all today.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 6:06pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

DC used to be very strong on keeping characters On Model.
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Mike Norris
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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 6:38pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I think on model Batman lasted longer than most and with the least changes. 
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Brian Hague
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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 7:02pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

When Julius Schwartz brought in the "New Look" Batman in 1964, it really was seen as quite a shake-up in the conventional order of things. Comics historians try to equate that change with the dawn of the Earth-One Batman's adventures, but the Kane/Sprang model had already been a member of the JLA for a few years before that. The yellow oval around his bat symbol didn't appear on a JLA cover until issue #29. Superman's changeover is thought to be somewhere around 1959, so that would put Batman's pretty far behind everyone else's if the "New Look" theory is adhered to. 

Companies used to take the consistent appearance of their characters seriously. Would that it were so today. 

Something I find interesting about the premise of JB's first purchased Batman comic is the way in which it faintly presages "Generations." 

I really like the way in which Swan has included a few faint hints in the younger Batman's facial features to suggest that it is a grown-up Dick Grayson under the cowl.


Edited by Brian Hague on 20 October 2018 at 7:08pm
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John Byrne

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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Something I find interesting about the premise of JB's first purchased Batman comic is the way in which it faintly presages "Generations."

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Nothing “faint” about it! That issue, plus the “Batman II and Robin II” stories that Alfred “wrote” directly—some might say blatantly—shaped GENERATIONS handling of the Batman mythos.

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Brian Miller
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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I do believe GENERATIONS will be my next pull from the long boxes. I just finished HIDDEN YEARS this afternoon. 
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John Cole
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Posted: 21 October 2018 at 5:17am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

My first issue of Batman may have been Ra's Al Ghul's first appearance in a handful of comics my Aunt gave me back in 1973 when I was 7 years old I also received ASM #98,100 and Avengers #97.
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