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Peter Martin
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Posted: 19 February 2020 at 5:29pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Another random thought: Joseph Bottoms, who plays Pizer,
is perhaps the least celebrated actor in the cast (I've
certainly never seen him in anything else), but musing on
the film, has made me realise I think he's one of those
actors who looks like they are a Jack Kirby character.
Would have made a good Cyclops!
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Brian Hague
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Posted: 19 February 2020 at 7:55pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Of course, Joseph Bottoms already enjoyed a brief career as a super-hero in a special episode of the Wonderful World of Disney as "Major Effects!" (shown here with the Mike Jittlov, "The Wizard of Speed and Time!")

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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 19 February 2020 at 7:58pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply


I will say:

Yvette Mimieux in a baked-potato tinfoil hat is the most unintentionally hilarious bit in the whole film!


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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 19 February 2020 at 8:10pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply


Peter and Brian - thank you! Those are good endorsements - I will go in with
expectations in check!

It helps that I really like Roddy McDowell and Slim Pickens. Slim is on TV right
now as TCM is playing DR. STRANGELOVE tonight.

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Shaun Barry
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(I loved the ending, as a kid.  Fired my imagination for days afterwards... even if the "science" and imagery makes no sense whatsoever.  Maybe it doesn't work, but that awesome John Barry score helps to sell it.)



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Jack Bohn
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A review of the time saw the ending as Disney borrowing from their ending of FANTASIA, "Night on Bald Mountain" and "Ave Maria."

Joseph Bottoms was parenthesised at the time for being in the miniseries HOLOCAUST. Hmm... except for Ernest Borgnine, none of them were really thought of as showing off their lighter side, yet.
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Brian Rhodes
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Posted: 20 February 2020 at 8:50pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I recently re-watched. Hasn't held as much magic as my first viewing at 10 years old, but it's got its highlights: some of the visuals, John Barry's score, and Maximilian remains an impressive robotic presence. 




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Rebecca Jansen
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I've never seen the film... not sure why. I do remember getting plastic robots from it in cereal packages at the time. I guess I should make some kind of effort to finally see it but it seems Disney is not very proud of it... only been on DVD twice? And only one has a single behind the scenes featurette? I guess that's about equal to Logan's Run though.
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Dave Kopperman
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That's a big YES on Barry's score - one of my favorites.  It seems like between this and "Howard the Duck" he was starting to build a portfolio of melodic and lush scores for poorly conceived and reviewed sci-fi films.
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Brian Rhodes
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I guess you could add the 1976 KING KONG to that list. I like the movie, myself, but it's not without its problems or detractors. However one might feel about the film, Barry's score is another winner. 

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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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A lot of the movie didn't aged well, but it is still
enjoyable for nostalgia.
I wouldn't mind a reboot with today's technology.
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Shaun Barry
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(Personally, I'd prefer a Prequel... I normally don't condone killing the mystery of what came before, but the events before THE BLACK HOLE are pretty much spelled-out already in the film.  It could be a fun, dark little story itself, about the initial discovery of the black hole, and ensuing attempted mutiny aboard the USS Cygnus.  And you'd still get to see Reinhardt, Maximilian, the Cygnus and Old BOB, at least.)





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