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Doug Jones
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 4:07am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

The Rousso Brothers used as little CGI in CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER as they could get away with. I hope the same happens with SHANG-CHI.

CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER contains 2500 VFX shots. That is more respective shots than THE AVENGERS (2200 shots), THOR (1309), IRON MAN 3 (2000), DOCTOR STRANGE (1500), AQUAMAN (2300) and this year’s CAPTAIN MARVEL (2124). The Russo Bros. are known for their aggressive, boundary-pushing use of VFX, and every company in the business is salivating at the prospect of working on projects from the Bros. new studio. If you consider their work on WINTER SOLDIER as the barometer, then SHANG CHI, too, will have as many VFX shots as the director can get away with: a metric shit-ton.

And it absolutely should. Shang-Chi's adventures featured him battling a rampaging gorilla, a shark (underwater!), resurrected Neanderthals, and automated suits of Victorian armor. He went toe-to-toe in hand-to-hand combat with Spider-Man, and battled a six-armed villain inside a giant web who was not Spider-Man. Other opponents include Razorfist—a guy with swords for forearms— and a sorcerer named Quan’Star. Shang-Chi once visited an island of giant robot toys, and on at least two occasions his adventures have featured someone trapped in a giant hourglass. This is not a character whose stories demand a restrained VFX approach.

My point is, a martial arts movie does not need to have computer animation to enhance its story like  it would for a God of Thunder or Sorcerer Supreme. Being a Marvel movie, like I said, they will unquestionably be using their fare share of it.

A martial arts movie named SHANG CHI does, especially since the villain is the Mandarin—and that would be the case even if a different studio were releasing it. And since “martial arts” is a wide-ranging film category with an extensive history of utilizing VFX, asserting that Marvel has to do it this way because it’s Marvel is a statement without much historical context regarding the industry, the genre, or the character himself.
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Jason G. Michalski
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 9:02am | IP Logged | 2 post reply


Edited by Jason G. Michalski on 12 August 2019 at 9:53am
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Whatever Marvel does with Shang-Chi, they must not fail like they did with Iron Fist. That show was a masterclass in suck. 
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Craig Earl
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 12:24pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I'm a little underwhelmed by the next phase options but I'll reserve judgement if they are as entertaining as GOTG was,.

The MCU movies have varied from superb (Iron Man, Avengers IW & EG, GOTG) to the entertaining but inessential (Ant-Man) to the disappointing (Thor TDW) and then the downright juvenile slap in the face that was Spider-Man FFH. 

Some of the lesser known characters might well hold the key to Marvel's longevity at the box office. I'm still hanging on for an Alpha Flight or Captain Britain offering though...
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