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Jim Muir
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Posted: 16 January 2019 at 7:11am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Big fan of Mysterio. Not a big fan of Mysterio's first appearance (in the trailer) being Jake Gyllenhaal looking nothing like Mysterio. 

Presumably Stark doesn't make it through Endgame, so the forced teacher/student dynamic of Homecoming is replicated again here but with Nick Fury this time. I only hope he's lost the Iron Man Lite suit he had in the last film.
I don't know, I just think it would be nice if they just let Spider-Man be his own thing in his own movie.

Not to be too negative though, I think Holland is well cast and  Homecoming was very enjoyable - it was just one of those movies I like less the more I think about them.

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Brian Rhodes
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How old was May in the comics? Late 50's? Early 60's?

Marisa Tomei is 54. Not hard to think this franchise carries on for at least another 5-6 years. 

I'm not saying May should be necessarily be "hot", but I don't think she needs to look cadaverous, either. 

Had Spider-Man been available to Marvel Studios in 2008, maybe we would have gotten more of that loner, independent character, who would have been more grown up and experienced...before having him join up with Avengers.  

As it was, to get him into CIVIL WAR, they had to cut out all the fat and go with basics: bitten by a spider, bad thing happened, being raised by his Aunt on her own, genius kid that created his own webbing and web-shooters. Has only been doing this for six months (otherwise, you'd have to explain why we hadn't seen him between IRON MAN and Stark showing up at his apartment). He can crawl up walls and is strong enough to catch a moving car. And away to Germany we go...

Frankly, I'm glad there wasn't a third Spider-Man origin movie in less than a 15-year span. 





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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 16 January 2019 at 11:56am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

 Brian Rhodes wrote:
How old was May in the comics? Late 50's? Early 60's?
 I don't know if it was ever established, but the way Ditko drew her she was easily past her early 70s.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 16 January 2019 at 12:27pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

May and Ben were typical of parental figures in those days. Call it “Andy Hardy syndrome,” where parents are more like grandparents.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 16 January 2019 at 12:29pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I'm not saying May should be necessarily be "hot", but I don't think she needs to look cadaverous, either.

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Unless you wanted to portray her as weak and sickly. But that’s only what the creators intended. So not important, right?

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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 16 January 2019 at 12:49pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

So not important, right?
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As with so many beloved properties, these days, obviously not. Slap a familiar name on pretty much anything, and people will shell out cash for it, apparently. 

Things are so dire now that people are settling for utter dreck, as long as it’s “fun”, or, even better “subversive”. 
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David Miller
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Posted: 16 January 2019 at 2:16pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Based on Peter's fear of her "freaking out" in CIVIL WAR, I was looking forward to Aunt Tomei having a heart condition or something, but that's looking more like wishful thinking. 
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 16 January 2019 at 7:18pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

A young and healthy Aunt May and a wealthy patron in Tony Stark takes away some of the biggest challenges that define Peter Parker. It's hard to see why this Peter Parker would ever have to toil for JJ Jameson. Also, with SHIELD and Nick Fury working with him, he never has to fear being on the wrong side of the law. 

I never thought of it this way, but Sony actually did a better job with Spider-Man than Marvel Studios is doing. 
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Shaun Barry
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My feeling (shared by another a page back) is that Marvel Studios didn't want to go over the same ground as the Raimi and Webb films, while also trying to do something new and fresh for the 21st century, all the while also trying to fold this new Spider-Man into the MCU in a way that felt organic to the universe already-established.

I think they've succeeded.  It's not the Spidey we know and love from the '60s or '80s, but it's not meant to be, either.  Like it or not, this is the Spider-Man for today's generation of kids, and they seem just fine with it.  If my son loves these films, and I enjoy them as well, there's no real reason for this old school fan to complain.

The Lee/Ditko/Romita/Stern/Romita Jr./et al issues will always be there to revisit, if my son ever feels inclined to learn about the early years of the character, or if I'm ever feeling nostalgic.  Even if they stopped making new movies tomorrow, with over 55+ years of various comics, TV programs, animated series, movies, etc., there's more than enough Spidey that already exists to go around and satisfy anyone for the rest of their lives!





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Michael Penn
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Like it or not, this is the Spider-Man for today's generation of kids, and they seem just fine with it.

My 11 year old boy was dying to see this movie. So, my wife prevailed upon me to take him. He's more than fine with it. Thing is, the way the actual Spider-Man was handled for a few minutes... was really excellent, and showed that the real Spider-Man still works... and my boy was more than fine with that too.

Although the film painfully took pains to exhibit a been-there, done-that yawn about Spider-Man, as it ran through the same-old, same-old "origin" variations for each of the Spider-Iterations, nothing about the character necessitates such ennui. So, why did they choose to embrace boredom?

(If ennui is inescapable, then JB should immediately give up his Elsewhen endeavor!)




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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 17 January 2019 at 6:26pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply


(Michael, are you referring to HOMECOMING, or the animated INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE?)



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Michael Penn
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Posted: 17 January 2019 at 9:59pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

SPIDER-VERSE, Shaun. Sorry for any confusion.
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