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Peter Martin
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Posted: 26 March 2019 at 1:15pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

"Unstoppable". Kinda like "unique". Can't be quantified.
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"Strongest there is" also points to similar territory as unique; it is quite singular.

I suppose the two can be mutually exclusive. The Hulks is the strongest there is, but Juggernaut never stops. He's like aging. You can slow it, but you can't actually bring it to a halt.

I'm wondering what wording Claremont would use to describe the Hulk fighting Juggernaut. Maybe irresistable force and immovable object could creep into the mix. Just perhaps.
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Greg McPhee
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Posted: 26 March 2019 at 1:27pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

J.M. DeMatteis carried the Vermin character from his Captain America run in to MTU which transitioned him from being a Cap foe to a Spider-Man one in "Karen's Last Hunt". It worked, but I still think of Vermin as being a member of Cap's villains.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 26 March 2019 at 1:36pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

When SPECTACULAR started, Len Wein, scripting AMAZING, gave Spider-Man a thought balloon to the effect that lately his life was seeming twice as busy. As artist on MTU I grumbled that Parker’s complaint should have been that he was one third more busy—but I did admit that didn’t trip so easily off the tongue.

Sad thing was, Len hadn’t even thought to include MTU in his math.

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Greg McPhee
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Posted: 26 March 2019 at 1:56pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

When I was younger, I always considered SPECTACULAR a poor cousin to AMAZING. It, to me, wasn't the main book (despite great work).  Just a thing of youth I did grow out of.
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Ronald Joseph
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Posted: 26 March 2019 at 4:07pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

When I was younger, I always considered SPECTACULAR a poor cousin to AMAZING. 

Same here! I grew up on the Stern/Romita, Jr. ASM run and it's still my favorite to this day. Great stuff going on there...

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John Byrne

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Posted: 26 March 2019 at 4:12pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Things sometimes got muddy when a mainstream title referenced something that happened in MTU or MTIO, but not so much as to cause problems (that I can recall, anyway). But I do like thinking of them as "somewhere else."

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Roger Stern has said he considers MTU the official death of the Marvel Universe created by Stan, Jack, Steve and the rest. It was the first time a Marvel character was sacrificed on the Altar of Mammon.

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