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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 2:05pm | IP Logged | 1
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Seems to have a lot of similarities to the Who Is Donna Troy? story.••• Shhh! Now some people will try to figure out how I stole the idea!
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Vishwas Aragam Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | 2
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4. Lapsed X-Men readers who just liked what Morrison was doing on the book. |
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This was me. It was one of the books I picked up when I got back into comics in college. I wasn’t familiar with Morrison’s work before and for the most part enjoyed his run.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 2:32pm | IP Logged | 3
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JB wrote:
...There’s also a sense that many writers identify more with the bad guys, the rule breakers. “Yeah, that’s what I’d do if I had super powers!”... |
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Ugh, how I hate that line of thinking. I hear it from too many people, usually excusing a previously noble character being written badly. Honestly, it is deeply depressing to think there are that many shitty people in the world that they would admit to being jerks and criminals if they had actual power. No wonder the world is in the state it's in.
The guys over at Red Letter Media on YouTube recently reviewed the tv series "The Boys," and while they seemed against Superman being portrayed as he had been in "Man of Steel" (the film), they still trotted out the line about how they would act badly if they had powers. Whenever people say that, there seems to be the suggestion that everyone thinks like them about that matter.
Call me crazy, but I like to think someone out there would actually use powers for good.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 2:42pm | IP Logged | 4
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As Roger Stern has often said, one of the things that make Superman Superman is that he’s never gone on TV and made a speech that begins “As your king...”
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Rick Whiting Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 4:46pm | IP Logged | 5
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Seems to have a lot of similarities to the Who Is Donna Troy? story.
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Hey, you're right. Of course this shouldn't come as a surprise since this is a story written by Hickman whose past Marvel stories (as I pointed out in an earlier post) has basically been retelling/rehashing older DC stories with Marvel characters.
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Adam Schulman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 5:34pm | IP Logged | 6
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Of course this shouldn't come as a surprise since this is a story written by Hickman whose past Marvel stories (as I pointed out in an earlier post) has basically been retelling/rehashing older DC stories with Marvel characters.
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Gee, whatever will he do if he works for DC?
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Rick Whiting Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 6:29pm | IP Logged | 7
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Gee, whatever will he do if he works for DC?
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Probably rehash/retell old Marvel stories with DC characters.
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 6:41pm | IP Logged | 8
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Rick W: "...rehash/retell old Marvel stories with DC characters"
Superman: "Father, they are only human, but they are important to me..." Jor-El: "Silence! By the bristling headband of Jor-El, ye must stop the menace of Black Zero, Kal-El!"
Guardian of the Universe: "You have never encountered a threat such as Galactus. He will destroy you planet, and none have ever turned him back." Robin: "He's never faced US before! Titans, Together!"
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 6:46pm | IP Logged | 9
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Call me crazy, but I like to think someone out there would actually use powers for good----------------------------------------------- Someone out there who would actually use powers for good doesn't preclude the notion that many would not. Super heroes are better than most; they are exceptional. The conceit of super hero comics is that it is this exceptional person who happens to get the powers and that's fine.
In real life, people tend to comprise bad and good impulses and consequently different actions will surface according to situation rather than disposition.
I would submit as evidence most riots in history, but in particular I would point your attention to the Murray-Hill riot in 1969, when the Montreal police went on strike and the normally non-criminal populous went ape-shit, and also to the LA riots after the acquittal of the four LA policeman in the Rodney King case, when the LA police made it clear they wouldn't intercede. 55 deaths and a billion dollars damage later, the National Guard stepped in. No matter how outrageous the verdict, six days of rioting that had to be forcibly stopped doesn't speak much to the natural goodness in people's hearts.
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | 10
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I've also recently been reading about Puyi, the last Emperor of China. Someone who was handed great powers over those around him from a very young age. What did he do? Whip his eunuchs and occasionally command them to eat dirt...
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Rick Whiting Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 7:59pm | IP Logged | 11
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Superman: "Father, they are only human, but they are important to me..." Jor-El: "Silence! By the bristling headband of Jor-El, ye must stop the menace of Black Zero, Kal-El!"
Guardian of the Universe: "You have never encountered a threat such as Galactus. He will destroy you planet, and none have ever turned him back." Robin: "He's never faced US before! Titans, Together!"
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LOL.
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Adam Schulman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 August 2019 at 8:36pm | IP Logged | 12
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I was very glad to read last week's JUSTICE LEAGUE #29. Not only was it intentionally funny in parts, but it proved that yes, superheroes should be written as morally superior people.
And it contains what might be my new favorite Batman panel of all time. (No spoilers.)
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