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Fred J Chamberlain
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 6:31am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Epstein was taken off of suicide watch last week. This,
done correctly, would require a mental health
professional performing a full assessment.
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:45am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

The Washington Post reports:


 QUOTE:
According to people familiar with the investigation, authorities have had trouble locating [Ghislaine] Maxwell, who is believed to be living abroad.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:47am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I hope his death doesn't halt the investigation.
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I hope Ghislaine Maxwell doesn't end up dead.
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Leigh DJ Hunt
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 11:34am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Leigh...Can you read aloud the sentence you just wrote ?
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Sure. I can and just did. What do you mean? Everyone is thinking it. At the very least it was suicide and someone somewhere made sure that if he attempted it, the guards would not be around/not stop it etc. 

I mean, look at who owns the facility where it happened.
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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

AG William Barr said today that Epstein's alleged co-conspirators "should not rest easy".... we're supposed to believe this guy... with his record of cover-ups??

This whole situation is very disturbing.

-C!
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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I wonder what the moratorium on public attention will be on this particular situation. The fact that Epstein is dead is gross negligence. When was the last time an incarcerated individual with this much public scrutiny has committed suicide? His death seems very convenient and I would think there are many people waiting out public attention at this point.
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Jason G. Michalski
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 7:33am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

AG Barr is probably panicking to some degree since his father has a connection to Epstein.

Barr's father, Donald, gave Epstein a job as a math teacher at the Dalton prep school in NY in 1973, despite Epstein's lack of teach credentials or college degree. 

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James Woodcock
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 8:12am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I didn’t realise Ghislaine Maxwell was the daughter of THAT Maxwell. 

Flipping hack, scandal really does just follow some families around doesn’t it?


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Andy Mokler
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 10:02am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Since he had already attempted suicide once before I didn't pay much attention to him actually succeeding.

But there seems to be a lot of things adding up to this looking like something more.

Why was the suicide watch cancelled?  Where is the security tape of him in his cell?  Where did this guy get all of his money?  Why did someone give him a $70M mansion?  Why did Bill Clinton ride the Lolita Jet 27 times without his Secret Service detail?  

And, something else that doesn't seem consistent, the one bit of testimony regarding Trump has been that he specifically didn't flirt with Epstein's "women" and in fact, kicked Epstein out of his casino for harassing an underage girl.

I'm sure the "truth" will be given to the public any second now.
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Fred J Chamberlain
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 10:06am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I don't know specifics of this situation, but (done
ethically and correctly) a suicide watch involves
assessments by a mental health professional. If this
played out as suggested, there would have been an
assessment that found no intent or eminent risk.
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Juan Gomez
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

They're now claiming the entire prison had a series of bad policies and flaws, even before this latest debacle, which we would have never known about until Epstein died (guards on excessive overtime, for instance). At the very least, those should be a contributing factor.
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