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Fred J Chamberlain Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 6:31am | IP Logged | 1
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Epstein was taken off of suicide watch last week. This, done correctly, would require a mental health professional performing a full assessment.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:45am | IP Logged | 2
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The Washington Post reports:
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According to people familiar with the investigation, authorities have had trouble locating [Ghislaine] Maxwell, who is believed to be living abroad. |
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John Byrne
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:47am | IP Logged | 3
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I hope his death doesn't halt the investigation.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 4
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I hope Ghislaine Maxwell doesn't end up dead.
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Leigh DJ Hunt Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 11:34am | IP Logged | 5
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Leigh...Can you read aloud the sentence you just wrote ?----------------- Sure. I can and just did. What do you mean? Everyone is thinking it. At the very least it was suicide and someone somewhere made sure that if he attempted it, the guards would not be around/not stop it etc.
I mean, look at who owns the facility where it happened.
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Charles Valderrama Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | 6
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AG William Barr said today that Epstein's alleged co-conspirators "should not rest easy".... we're supposed to believe this guy... with his record of cover-ups??
This whole situation is very disturbing.
-C!
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Eric Ladd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | 7
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I wonder what the moratorium on public attention will be on this particular situation. The fact that Epstein is dead is gross negligence. When was the last time an incarcerated individual with this much public scrutiny has committed suicide? His death seems very convenient and I would think there are many people waiting out public attention at this point.
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Jason G. Michalski Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 7:33am | IP Logged | 8
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AG Barr is probably panicking to some degree since his father has a connection to Epstein.
Barr's father, Donald, gave Epstein a job as a math teacher at the Dalton prep school in NY in 1973, despite Epstein's lack of teach credentials or college degree.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 8:12am | IP Logged | 9
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I didn’t realise Ghislaine Maxwell was the daughter of THAT Maxwell.
Flipping hack, scandal really does just follow some families around doesn’t it?
Edited by James Woodcock on 13 August 2019 at 8:12am
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Andy Mokler Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 10:02am | IP Logged | 10
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Since he had already attempted suicide once before I didn't pay much attention to him actually succeeding.
But there seems to be a lot of things adding up to this looking like something more.
Why was the suicide watch cancelled? Where is the security tape of him in his cell? Where did this guy get all of his money? Why did someone give him a $70M mansion? Why did Bill Clinton ride the Lolita Jet 27 times without his Secret Service detail?
And, something else that doesn't seem consistent, the one bit of testimony regarding Trump has been that he specifically didn't flirt with Epstein's "women" and in fact, kicked Epstein out of his casino for harassing an underage girl.
I'm sure the "truth" will be given to the public any second now.
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Fred J Chamberlain Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 10:06am | IP Logged | 11
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I don't know specifics of this situation, but (done ethically and correctly) a suicide watch involves assessments by a mental health professional. If this played out as suggested, there would have been an assessment that found no intent or eminent risk.
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Juan Gomez Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | 12
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They're now claiming the entire prison had a series of bad policies and flaws, even before this latest debacle, which we would have never known about until Epstein died (guards on excessive overtime, for instance). At the very least, those should be a contributing factor.
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