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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 11:52am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

 I don't feel the need to know, JB... but I welcome the limited knowledge of these contracts that's exposed....  gives me a little insight as to how these big companies value their properties.... these characters I invested in emotionally growing up. 

I'm sure this knowledge will make it harder for the franchise to succeed... but I won't feel too bad for these multi-billion dollar studios and their rich executives. (They reap what they sow.)



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Joseph Greathouse
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 4:48pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

As a stock holder I feel the information is more beneficial than sad.
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Mario Ribeiro
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

If the studios made original movies, we could all be friends again.
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Matt Reed
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Posted: 23 August 2019 at 12:19am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Define "original". 
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David Schmidt
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Posted: 23 August 2019 at 4:34am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Does this mean Marvel will cancel all Spider-Man books?
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Koroush Ghazi
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Posted: 23 August 2019 at 6:18am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

 Matt Reed wrote:
Define "original".


Not remakes. Not remakes of remakes. Not reimaginings. Not reboots of the same basic origin story with different actors. Not all-female or all-whatever reimagined remakes. Not films where the current formula (big name stars + some nostalgic property + lazy/disrespectful/edgy writing) is used in such a ham-fisted manner, it makes paint by numbers seem like an advanced artform.
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Michael Roberts
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Not remakes. Not remakes of remakes. Not reimaginings. Not reboots of the same basic origin story with different actors. Not all-female or all-whatever reimagined remakes. Not films where the current formula (big name stars + some nostalgic property + lazy/disrespectful/edgy writing) is used in such a ham-fisted manner, it makes paint by numbers seem like an advanced artform.

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I'll point out that THE WIZARD OF OZ, considered one of the most culturally influential films in Hollywood history, was the third or fourth attempt to adapt "The Wizard of Oz" on film, out of several other film attempts to adapt the other Oz books, not to mention live theater adaptations of the same series.

Cecil B. DeMille reimagined his own work, and you can point to several "classic" films of the 40s, 50s, and 60s that were remakes of the silent film era or television adaptations.

MY FAIR LADY was an adaptation of a Broadway musical, which was an adaptation of 30s film, which was an adaptation of a stage play.

Remakes and reboots are part of the DNA of filmmaking. People clamoring for "originality" are often just unaware of the source material for the movies they do like.
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Mario Ribeiro
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Posted: 23 August 2019 at 7:43am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Yes, there have been remakes since people started shooting trains arriving at the closest station. And there are tons of great movies based on books or plays or whatever, that's all true.

Look, if anyone's happy with current Hollywood movies, great. Clearly a lot of people are. Some of us are tired of seeing those trains, though. They arrive, we get it!
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Jason G. Michalski
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Posted: 23 August 2019 at 8:56am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Saying Hollywood doesn't make "original" movies anymore is simply not true. Smaller studios and streaming services like Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, HBO, etc, release "original" content left and right. There are so many options for entertainment today, it's almost overwhelming. Every decade has its blockbuster trends that we have to ride out that divides movies goers. 

Do I personally want to go see my theatre choices limited to remakes of the Lion King, Aladdin and the latest Superhero movie? No, but a lot of people do and Hollywood knows that. It's a business, I get it. I'll just watch something on Netflix or find a theater playing something "original" and give it a shot. 



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Koroush Ghazi
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 Michael Roberts wrote:
Remakes and reboots are part of the DNA of
filmmaking. People clamoring for "originality" are often just unaware of
the source material for the movies they do like.
CLEVER
remakes, reimagining, and reboots are part of moviemaking, indeed
any form of creative endeavor. When they become an industry’s bread
and butter, and are done poorly, they should be called out, not
embraced.

To put it another way, there’s a big difference between John
Carpenter’s remake of The Thing From Another World, and
Ghostbusters (2016)...

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Brian Rhodes
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On the one hand, at this point, I guess nothing is truly original. 

On the other, let's give Terminator and Alien movies a rest. 


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Steve De Young
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You can't swing a dead cat in 50's and 60's cinema without hitting a remake.  The main difference is we now have movie libraries available to us.  When High Society came out, nobody had a digital copy of Philadelphia Story.  Now, we can watch the originals any time we want, so the remakes are more glaring and we're more able to compare them side by side.

But even with that said, the difference between The Thing and Ghostbusters (2016) has nothing to do with remakes/reboots being good or bad and everything to do with one being a good movie and one being crap.
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