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Greg Nock
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Posted: 18 October 2019 at 8:13am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Back when you worked regularly with Marvel, how much governance did Editorial provide over what a writer could do with "community property" in the Marvel Universe? I'm thinking of things like the Savage Land, SHIELD and AIM, etc.

This question is prompted by revisiting a Claremont X-Men story that restored the Savage Land to vitality after Terminus ravaged the ecosystem in one of Roger Stern's Avengers tales. (No griping implied, here -- just curious if Editorial coordinated these kinds of things, or if they were left freely to the creators.)

Optional follow-up: any situations where you wanted to do a story with a shared asset, but were waved off? No details necessary, if you'd prefer to keep them to yourself, of course.

Thanks!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 18 October 2019 at 8:44am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Oh, dog! I'd have to write about 400 pages to even BEGIN to answer you!!!
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Greg Nock
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Posted: 18 October 2019 at 8:46am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Ha! Fair enough -- and perhaps speaks volumes!

Thanks, all the same.


Edited by Greg Nock on 18 October 2019 at 8:49am
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Phil Kreisel
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Posted: 18 October 2019 at 9:58am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Not to undercut JB or anyone else here in the Forum...

This is probably a reflection of how large the Marvel Corporation has become.  Back when Marvel first started out, Stan was everywhere and had a handle on keeping things like the Savage Land straight.

Even Stan and the bulletin had made their share of errors over the years though, like in Avengers (I think issue 35) where Cap's shield was disintigrated by laser beams (which should not have happened).

Size makes a difference.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 18 October 2019 at 10:09am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Size makes a difference.

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With editorial offices lined up next to each other? With no one having to go more than a hundred feet to check some detail?

Let's not make excuses for unprofessionalism.

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Mark McKay
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Posted: 18 October 2019 at 11:24am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

You could argue it’s even easier now, as everyone is only an email away!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 18 October 2019 at 2:37pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Unfortunately, from personal experience I can tell you changes are often made maliciously, intended as deliberate interference with another writer’s story. Factor that into the equation and no amount of easy communication can help.
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 18 October 2019 at 3:17pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I guess it really shouldn't be any different than any other workplace. There will always be those vindictive, spiteful people in our midst.

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Mike Norris
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Posted: 18 October 2019 at 3:38pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Back in the 70s I heard that Steves Englehart and Gerber both wanted to use Yellowjacket in their respective team books (Avengers and Defenders). Englehart "won" probably because Hank was an Avenger. For me it would have win either way as I liked both teams and Yellowjacker. 
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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 19 October 2019 at 12:17pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I loved just about everything Roger Stern did, but destroying the Savage Land in one and a half issues of AVENGERS seemed very strange to me.
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