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Adam Schulman
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Posted: 20 November 2019 at 1:06pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

An excellent YouTube post by a very talented young man.

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Sergio Saavedra
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Posted: 23 January 2020 at 12:02pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Thank you. Very interesting.
In my country, I feel rock hasn't been replaced by hip-hop but by reggaeton. And don't make me get started with reggaeton...
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Rick Senger
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Posted: 23 January 2020 at 12:51pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

His premise is dead on.  Still, as he admits, it's subjective (precisely how much elec. guitar is enough to push a song into rock;  many songs have both elec guitar and synths playing the melody.)  But there's no denying the trend, even on the "borderline" groups.  Chicago, which he cites as rock, did soft pop just as successfully, often right next to their harder tracks; I'd say they started as rock but there are many many albums that are right on that edge of 3 or 4 or 5 harder "rock" songs and I suspect other bands are the same.  Similarly massive 70s groups like The Doobie Brothers and Steely Dan both started in rock but both soon branched out and created many albums in that grey area.  (The Doobies' mellower than usual 1978 "Minute By Minute" LP has been cited by some as an early harbinger of the decline of rock; like it or hate it, "What A Fool Believes" from that album was a huge hit that bore little resemblance to their earlier work but spawned a whole generation of soulful synth pop.  Foreigner which was initially a hard rock band lurched farther and farther into pop and synth based fare. 

One thing I find a little jarring is that a lot of the "oldies" and "soft rock" stations are now playing stuff from the 70s and 80s that is at times harder than the contemporary tracks.  But music is constantly evolving and all it takes is one breakthrough band with a new rock sound to turn it around again.  Whenever they pronounce the death of something somebody talented out there inevitably finds a way to bring it back at least for a while.
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 3:17am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Thanks for posting this. He's got some really good vids
that I've been looking at since you did this
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Andrew Davey
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Posted: 12 February 2020 at 10:59am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Very insightful. He articulates very well what I have been wondering these past few years.... where has rock and roll gone?
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Adam Schulman
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Posted: 12 February 2020 at 8:25pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Onto indie labels and bandcamp.com. Major labels aren't interested and aren't signing rock acts anymore. 
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 24 February 2020 at 1:40pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Rock music is still popular, concert ticket sales and
album sales prove that. It`s just that the media ram
everything BUT rock music down our throats, to be "Down
wiv da kidz"
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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 24 February 2020 at 4:38pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Real rock & roll never needs choreography. I think if you take away all the dancing and costumes and the music doesn't really stand on it's own, it's probably not rock & roll. There sure is a crap load of dancers and stage effects these days. I got so I just couldn't make it through the Grammys to the quality performers. Some of that stuff is indistinguishable from the SNL parodies of same.

Or you can just stick with old Thin Lizzy, that's pretty much 100% rock right there. r.i.p.

Still, I dig the Raconteurs! There's some kind of Jack White backlash, but my ears do not deceive; the kid knows what's real.
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 25 February 2020 at 1:01am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Love Thin Lizzy, Rebecca! I was actually at the
unveiling of the Phil Lynott statue in Dublin and the
concert at The Point in his honour way back in 2005!
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