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Manuel Soler
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Posted: 06 December 2019 at 8:36pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I believe Scott's optic blast may work in a similar way as Iron Man's Pulse Bolts worked!
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Jeffrey Rice
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Posted: 08 December 2019 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

The optic blasts in a wave form, tight in amplitude so they appear as a solid red beam, growing in force as they move from Cyke's eyes. 

Edited by Jeffrey Rice on 08 December 2019 at 8:18am
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John Byrne

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Posted: 08 December 2019 at 8:29am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Ranging into OHOTMU territory now. Never a great idea.
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Paul Go
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Posted: 09 December 2019 at 9:10am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I'm guessing that the metal detritus on the ship won't make it a very good lifting body.  Reminds me a bit of Lester Dent's master plot formula, at least from what I recall: heap trouble on the hero, once escaped, heap more trouble, and then worse and worse until they make it by the skin of their teeth at the end.

I am curious about the confrontation between Wolverine and Magneto after the asteroid began to blow apart (literally, by the interior atmosphere, I take it).  Did "letting go" not give Magneto the strength to hurt Wolverine? Did he just not care, thinking that the X-Man would die in space anyway? Did the shock of the walls expanding and air rushing out stun Wolverine just enough so he wouldn't attack? So much runs through my mind. Not that I need an explanation, mind you, I'm just babbling about what it makes me think of. 

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John Byrne

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Reminds me a bit of Lester Dent's master plot formula, at least from what I recall: heap trouble on the hero, once escaped, heap more trouble, and then worse and worse until they make it by the skin of their teeth at the end.

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I think it was Samuel Goldwyn who was reported to have said "Start with a volcano and build from there."

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Sean Sinclair
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Posted: 09 December 2019 at 11:07am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

 John Byrne wrote:

As to how he counters the force, I convinced myself that the beams actually increase in power as they go out. Not logical, I know, but. . . .

That was my theory when I was a kid reading the reprints of the original X-Men run, because of several scenes (e.g. the cover of X-Men #1) where Scott's beams were pale pink near his face and got darker and darker red as they went toward their target. They didn't come up with the ruby-quartz explanation for this for quite a while, so in the early issues I kept wondering how ordinary sunglasses could keep the beams contained. 

Of course, if that were true, he couldn't use them to propel himself backwards in space, but I'm willing to engage Willful Suspension of Disbelief / Comic Book Science on that point. :) 


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John Byrne

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Posted: 09 December 2019 at 11:12am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

...if that were true, he couldn't use them to propel himself backwards in space...

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Why not?

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Sean Sinclair
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Posted: 09 December 2019 at 11:21am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

 John Byrne wrote:
...if that were true, he couldn't use them to propel himself backwards in space...

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Why not?


Wouldn't he have just a tiny amount of force pushing back on him? 
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John Byrne

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Posted: 09 December 2019 at 11:38am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

“Tiny” amount—which is relative anyway—should be enough in Free Fall.
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Scott Barnett
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Posted: 09 December 2019 at 11:44am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Given the theories here that Cyke's beams increase in power as they project forward, wouldn't that mean he's generating more than that 'tiny' amount of force, in order to propel himself and his teammates?

(I confess I don't have my physicist's cap on...)


Edited by Scott Barnett on 09 December 2019 at 11:45am
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Sean Sinclair
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Posted: 09 December 2019 at 12:18pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

“Tiny” amount—which is relative anyway—should be enough in Free Fall.
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Oh, that's true. Withdrawn. :)
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Jeffrey Rice
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Posted: 09 December 2019 at 5:26pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Things do not look good for the ship. 

Does Professor X get them in bulk?
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