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Jason Scott
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Posted: 02 August 2020 at 5:37am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

...other than the overloading phaser scene, I never liked The Man Trap...

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I am completely blanking on this. Overloading phaser?

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Damn, I must be getting really old for my memory to be playing tricks on me like that. Oh well, I guess this means then that there's absolutely nothing I like about The Man Trap!

Sorry for all the confusion!
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Jason Scott
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Posted: 02 August 2020 at 5:47am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Over the decades I have come to think of "The Corbomite Maneuver" as the "best" TOS episode.
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Indeed. I caught a recent reshowing of this episode on UK tv this week and was amazed by just how perfect an episode it is. A true classic all right..
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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 August 2020 at 6:53am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Oh well, I guess this means then that there's absolutely nothing I like about The Man Trap!

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With that resolved, I can now disagree with you! "The Man Trap" is one of my most-watched episodes. So, :-ppppppp

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Jason Scott
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Posted: 02 August 2020 at 1:36pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Different strokes for different folks! ;) And I respect that you have a contrasting opinion on it. One of the great things about the original Star Trek is that there's such a variety to it. If you didn't like the type of episode you watched one week, the chances are you'd get something very different on the following. (I loved Quantum Leap for indulging in that aspect too.)

I feel like this is something a lot of modern shows have lost a bit of, in their desires to create one big epic story arc. Like on Picard for instance, if you didn't like the story they were telling, well that's you screwed then for the rest of the season!

Personally I think you can have a balance between the two. Like in the early seasons of Buffy where you'd have a 'big bad' gradually growing in the background, but you'd still have time for your adventures of the week. I miss those days..
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Marten van Wier
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Posted: 06 August 2020 at 2:03pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

(and no "super-Spock")

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Mr Byrne, could you elaborate on this?
It has been a while since you explained what some of the problems were with the writing of Spock.


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John Byrne

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Posted: 06 August 2020 at 3:24pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Over the three years of TOS Spock slowly gained more and more super powers.

Consider the mind-meld. Introduced in DAGGER OF THE MIND as a complex and even dangerous form of hypnosis (tho Spock says it isn’t) it “evolved” into something he could do without physical contact, and even thru walls and solid rock.

In THIS SIDE OF PARADISE we learned he was much stronger than a “normal human”. OPERATION: ANNIHILATE! told us about his “inner eyelids”. His alien body chemistry saved him enough times it came close to qualifying as a super power.

It swung dangerously close to lazy writing.

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Marten van Wier
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Posted: 06 August 2020 at 4:41pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Ah I see now. Thank you for explaining.
They were indeed trying to make him into some kind of super "person" (Spock would probably prefer that I would not call him a man)
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Matthew Chartrand
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply



 And then in the movies he came back from the dead. He's the Vulcan Messiah. :)
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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 08 August 2020 at 1:25pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply


(As I realized many years ago... STAR TREK III: THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK could very well be the only film example I can think of, where the entire movie is one big, long, convoluted deus ex machina!)



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