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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 06 August 2020 at 5:43pm | IP Logged | 1
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That's not fair!!
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 April 2004 Posts: 4545
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Posted: 06 August 2020 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | 2
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Regarding the evolution of the Thing's appearance, here's a fascinating page of original art from FF #15 (as printed in Jack Kirby Collector #33). Two panels were redrawn and pasted over, but on the original art you can see Kirby's original pencils, which demonstrate that he had already started drawing the Thing in a rockier manner by that point, but Ayers was "fixing" it to look like the earlier, lumpier Thing. Then when Roussos took over with issue #21, he simply inked the pencils more faithfully, and the result was a dramatically changed Thing.
Edited by Jason Czeskleba on 06 August 2020 at 6:45pm
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Don Berner Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 July 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 75
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Posted: 06 August 2020 at 11:12pm | IP Logged | 3
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"* Key to the Executive Washroom to the first to correctly name where that was!"
Woolworth's Food Floor?
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 31 January 2014 Location: United States Posts: 4789
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 7:31am | IP Logged | 4
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It astounds me in suspense that so much story was on each page. Word balloons, captions, sound effects, and action all shared each panel - all balanced evenly. There is no loss of any aspect of the story, but it's nice and compact - just enough story without being crowded but also without being splayed all over.
It seems a talent that very few later artists managed.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 7:41am | IP Logged | 5
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Too bad those stories suffered from being compressed............
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Eric Ladd Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 August 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 4506
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 7:57am | IP Logged | 6
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Reading an old comic book took some time. I remember a conversation with a friend after getting a hold of some Marvel Tales issues where we remarked it took 20-30 minutes to read Amazing Spider-Man back in the 60’s as opposed to breezing through a current book (90’s) In 5 minutes. They were packed with story information.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 12409
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 9:31am | IP Logged | 7
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Just the initial fifteen issues of THE UNCANNY X-MEN introduced... Magneto, the Blob, the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, Juggernaut, and the Sentinels -- and, for good measure, Kazar and the Stranger too!
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 February 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 4410
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | 8
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Reading up to #9 of the Byrne-Sears-Elliot Spider-Woman and there were three great new rogues! Flesh And Bones, Shadowcaster, and that wild Cluster! Two of them are totally unique as far as I know. There are others from the Spider-Man gallery but if a new series had just one of those original adversaries they'd be seen to have really done something.
Kirby went through ideas like tissue paper sometimes, but you can see where after 'Him' and Annihilus he is deliberately switching gears. Not much lasting was added to The X-Men aside from the Mimic and Banshee after Kirby, not until much later with Havok and Polaris.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 12:51pm | IP Logged | 9
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As the story is told, Jack was so disappointed with Stan’s handling of the Him story that he elected to create no more new characters.
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Ted Pugliese Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 05 December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 7979
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 6:36pm | IP Logged | 10
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Crap! Thanks to the weather, I just lost everything I wrote. I give up. Good night.
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Don Berner Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 July 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 75
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Posted: 08 August 2020 at 2:36pm | IP Logged | 11
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Woodwards? United Cigar? As a life long Edmontonion not knowing where this wall of comics would have been is driving me nuts.lol
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John Byrne
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Posted: 08 August 2020 at 3:00pm | IP Logged | 12
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Hint: Jasper Avenue.
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