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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 08 August 2020 at 8:29pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Interesting report by "Doomcock" on using CGI to replace actors in future films:



Note: The "reporter" on the video is a character, but the information is based on real sources.

If true, what are your thoughts on the CGI use of actor likenesses for future films?

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John Harrison
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Posted: 08 August 2020 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

No way will I watch that guy's videos so I have no idea whats in it

There was a huge lawsuit by Crispin Glover over this like 20 years ago over
Back to the Future 2 studios cant just use likeness without permission its why
you don't see Elvis in True Romance they couldn't get permission

Even with permission and compensation I personally have no interest in say
seeing James Dean in a new movie but we live in a world where dead
musicians tour as holograms

And why would anyone leak information to youtube guy in a costume?
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 08 August 2020 at 11:49pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

The "reporter" on the video is a character


If by character you mean guy who puts out fake rumors to serve as clickbait for angry nerds, then yes.
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John Byrne

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Somebody coined a term for this. Zombie puppetry?
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Andrew Bitner
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Mannequinimation?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 09 August 2020 at 8:41am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Say that ten times really fast!
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Shaun Barry
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Posted: 09 August 2020 at 8:54am | IP Logged | 7 post reply


This has been an inevitability for years now, it's just a matter of time before this really takes off.

If the original report is true, though, it's just a shame that Mark Hamill may have already signed-away his likeness for future STAR WARS projects.  I just find that unnerving and sad.  



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John Byrne

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Is it very different from what I did in STAR TREK - NEW VISIONS?
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 09 August 2020 at 9:23am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Actually, I thought the use of the long gone would be more prevalent by now. Especially after the success of FORREST GUMP, 26 freakin' years ago, tho they just used archival footage and digitally manipulated the mouths of the Presidents.
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Shaun Barry
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JB, at the risk of laying it on too thick, you know how to handle & respect classic established characters.

Modern Hollywood directors, producers and writers do not.



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Peter Martin
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Posted: 09 August 2020 at 7:59pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Ed Wood is turning in his grave at the thought of such shameless innovations.
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 13 August 2020 at 7:06pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

If true, Mark Hamill probably found a posthumous way to take care of his kids, and their kids, and so on. Though I would prefer it if they could have him do a real performance in a new Star Wars movie or show and digitally de-age him. An appearance can be faked but the performance is unique to the actor. For example the Princess Leia cameo at the end of Rogue One looked like young Carrie Fisher, but didn't feel like her at all (I believe Fisher was still alive during production, but they used another actress for the performance capture work). 

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