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Rick Senger
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Posted: 10 September 2020 at 2:02pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

She was sexy as hell and embraced clingy leather before many but for me, Diana Rigg's cheeky and quirky charm was her greatest strength. A true original. As mentioned, her wonderful swan song in GAME OF THRONES was a second truly iconic (and quite different) tv role. She will be missed.
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Marc Baptiste
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Posted: 10 September 2020 at 3:12pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Read on BBC today how much she loved playing that deliciously EVIL role on Game of Thrones!  Am so glad she had such fun in one of her final turns.

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Brennan Voboril
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Posted: 10 September 2020 at 4:34pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Loved her, so sad.  
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 10 September 2020 at 5:37pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Fan of hers. Sad she’s gone. 
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 10 September 2020 at 6:49pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

As much as I enjoyed her in The Avengers and OHMSS, it was later in her career that I thought she shone even brighter -- she terrified me in Mother Love. Curious to hear her role in in Game of Thrones described as evil; she seemed like one of the few willing to stand up to the Baratheon/Lannister thugs. Thought she was great in it regardless.
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Rick Whiting
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Posted: 11 September 2020 at 4:07am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

RIP.
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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 11 September 2020 at 1:44pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Looking back on Emma Peel's first appearance.... LINK

Such great chemistry they had.... if she hadn't left the show it would probably have continued on longer. Such a shame.

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John Popa
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Posted: 11 September 2020 at 5:09pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Two years ago Rigg was in the Broadway revival of "My Fair Lady."  A performer a quarter of Rigg's age cut back her performance schedule due to fatigue and Rigg called her out. Rigg felt you do Broadway, you do eight shows a week. Period.

She was a cool, classy lady. 
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Christopher Frost
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Posted: 11 September 2020 at 8:41pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Peter, her character in GoT is definitely evil. She was concerned with gaining power and would do anything to achieve it including switching allegiances multiple times, manipulated people like chess pieces (inluding her own granddaughter), murdering the king (even though he was indeed a monster who deserved it), setting up Tyrion & Sansa to take the blame for it and even used her dying moments to twist the knife in a little further with her confession. Oleanna knew what she wanted and didn't hesitate to make moves in order to achieve her goals. While she wasn't as outright villainous as Cersei or Joffrey, she definitely wasn't one of the good guys. Awesome character and performance though. She was a fan favorite on that show for a reason.

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Mike Benson
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Posted: 13 September 2020 at 12:10pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Calling the Queen of Thorns “evil” is an injustice to Martin’s nuanced and layered writing, and an amazing actress that did it justice.  Olenna’s final scene summed it up perfectly - she did what she had to do to protect her family and its interests.  She didn’t manipulate her granddaughter, she went to incredible lengths to protect her.  And she taught her to play the game, though in the end they were not a match for Cersei. And the only person she is known to have participated in killing was a monster that needed put down, a monster that would have likely hurt her granddaughter eventually.   Good and evil just don’t work in GOT.  The majority of the characters are in the gray between.  Olenna is one of the furthest from the evil end of that spectrum, surpassed possibly only by the Starks.  
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Christopher Frost
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She manipulated her granddaughter. She set her up to marry Joffrey and when she decided that Joffrey wasn't a suitable husband, she decided to murder him without even letting Margery know that she was planning to do so. Meaning that she let her go through the shock and trauma of watching her new husband die horribly without any sort of prewarning in order to gain a more realistic reaction from her to help avoid suspicion and to set her up to start working on Tommen. That's manipulation.
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Mike Benson
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She did none of those things.  There’s nothing that indicates she had anything to do with arranging the marriage.  More likely the Lannisters sought it after Renley’s murder due to Highgarden’s vast wealth.  And if you think Margaery experienced any trauma from Joffrey’s Death, you missed some episodes.  After the Purple Wedding, she plots her seduction of Tommen right along with her grandmother.  Later, she and Olenna have several conversations that clearly indicate she has been involved in all of the scheming and that, aside from the Queen of Thorn’s direct involvement in the poisoning, she’s pretty much aware of everything.  Hell, prior to Joffrey, Margaery offers to bring her own brother to her and Renly’s marriage bed so he can get excited enough to impregnate her. She ain’t no manipulated victim, and is one of the more skilled game players in the story herself.  

Painting Olenna as “evil” is an oversimplification of an incredibly well written character that is doing what is needed to survive, and keep her house and name alive.  She is a product of the world she lives in.


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