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John Northey
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Joined: 09 June 2020
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Posted: 16 October 2020 at 4:53pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Funny those comments from outside of here - while I'm as curious as anyone about how it would look with Austin inks (I love his inks on anyone pretty much) I'm loving it as is.  No way would I want Claremont doing the words - seeing Excalibur with and without Claremont with Davis on art, then Davis on art/story told me Claremont isn't my cup of tea - that the artists were the ones doing the heavy lifting.  Even more so than with Lee/Kirby and Lee/Ditko where both artists clearly did a ton of the lifting but Lee added a lot in character personality whereas I feel Claremont didn't given what I'm seeing here and what I saw years ago with Excalibur.  

I hate that we have to wait ... oh my god 2 days... for a new page.  Yeah, we're spoiled here.
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John Northey
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Posted: 16 October 2020 at 5:00pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Just did a search for comments (silly I know) and saw Rob Liefeld  (confirmed Twitter account) said in early September "John Byrne’s X-MEN ELSEWHEN, a maxi-series that he has written, illustrated and produced and has posted free on his site is the best X-Men comic of the year, hands down. It’s Marvelous. Inspirational!"

Nice to see an artist who has tons of fanboys, even if many here I suspect aren't fans, loves this stuff.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 16 October 2020 at 6:44pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I don't feel the need to pick sides. I can enjoy this without needing to say anything pejorative about Claremont. I think Claremont was really great at certain stuff, but had flaws in other areas. But it's kind of irrelevant. The whole point of this project is a pure-unadulterated Byrne version of X-Men. Claremont is therefore fundamentally not part of that.

Edited by Peter Martin on 16 October 2020 at 6:45pm
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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 17 October 2020 at 12:02pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply



It's great to see Nightcrawler in action. He even looks cool in a hospital gown!

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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 7:09am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Love the vintage feel of today's page 11. Kitty's "head" is a great device for exposition and I wonder how long ago it was used in comics. It's got me wondering about other story telling devices seldom used in modern comics. I instantly recognized it, but wonder if anyone raised on modern comics would understand it. A bit like showing someone young the turntable adapter for a 45RPM single.

Also, LOVE the last panel with Kitty throwing Scott into the deep end of phasing. Great angle and Scott's apprehension is palpable.
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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 7:10am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Great new page, JB!
I like how Professor X is all business, even in a moment of crisis, while Scott figures out why they're there. 
And that last panel is terrific-- I love the expressions on their faces especially.
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Wilson Mui
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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 7:21am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Love how you show the inside of the wall
or ground when Kitty is phasing.
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 7:31am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

This really is a different temperament Kitty to what we had
before (post 143) - action, don't ask permission, get going
when needed.

I like it (her).
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John Byrne

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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 7:34am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

This really is a different temperament Kitty to what we had before (post 143)…

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Once I "let go" of Kitty, she turned into a character very different from what I intended. Again, tho, since the character became as popular as she did, I must assume Chris knew what he was doing.

Kitty in ELSEWHEN, however, is entirely as I intended her to be.

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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 8:14am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Action Kitty! She's still impulsive, but clearly learning and growing more experienced than earlier in the series. A fast-moving Kitty/Scott team should be really effective.

I was wondering if the D'Bari would recognize Jahf as a Guardsman and listen to reason, but clearly they are not messing around.


Edited by Richard Stevens on 19 October 2020 at 8:15am
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 8:25am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Kitty's battle in X143 made a huge impression on me and I reread it often. Getting more of that Kitty is one of the greatest pleasures in Elsewhen.

She was one of the brightest parts of the X-Men for me after JB left, but there was so much change in the series that I eventually grew to feel distanced from her.

When New Mutants came around, I realized 2 things: 1. I wasn't interested in the New Mutants without Kitty and 2. I couldn't imagine Kitty (as written) ever being part of the New Mutants. Pretty soon, I was done with the whole X-Men line.

Until Hidden Years...
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Paul Wills
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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 8:51am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

It feels like these stories are presenting themselves to John B. Like he's watching them unfold as we are. They just seem so fluid and natural. 
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