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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 21 October 2020 at 1:47pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

It was enraging that this series was cancelled so unceremoniously. There was no limit to many stories could fit into "The Hidden Years" and I know, given the chance, you would have continued well past the theoretical 28 "missing" issues.

I wonder if, at the time the series was cancelled, would it have appealed to you to be asked go on to issue 28 and "complete" the link up to GSX #1/X-Men #94?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 21 October 2020 at 2:02pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

No.

See, one of the things I found frustrating in some corners of fandom was the insistence that the series was going to last only 28 issues, because that was the length of the “gap”.

But from the start I made it clear—or tried to—that XHY was intended to go on for as long as I had stories.

Once again, I made the mistake of trusting people in charge.

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Adam Schulman
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Posted: 21 October 2020 at 2:50pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

X-MEN: THE HIDDEN WEEKS
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 21 October 2020 at 4:42pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I've said it before, XMHY is my favorite JB series.
Yet Elsewhen is now right on it's heels!


Edited by Doug Centers on 21 October 2020 at 4:43pm
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Ben Herman
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Posted: 21 October 2020 at 5:36pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I was really, really hoping THY would last long enough for John Byrne to show the events of the Captain America storyline "The Secret Empire" from the X-Men's point of view.
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Jim Burdo
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Posted: 21 October 2020 at 5:42pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Do you still have stories from that time period that you'd like to do as fanfic?
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 21 October 2020 at 9:22pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

But would you have kept numbering the covers past 93?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 22 October 2020 at 6:05am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

If you mean the “hidden” numbers, yes.
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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 22 October 2020 at 4:54pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply


 QUOTE:
I've said it before, XMHY is my favorite JB series. Yet Elsewhen is now right on it's heels!


I like XMHY as well. ELSWHEN has surpassed that series for me. It's that good.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 23 October 2020 at 3:03pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Elsewhen is unique and I really find it hard to compare the cathartic feelings it brings to any other comic book experience.

Hidden Years was brilliantly conceived and executed.

Elsewhen is seeing the Shire green again.
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David Haight
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Posted: 24 October 2020 at 1:18am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I found the Hidden Years series mandate to be interesting - filling in the actual blanks that existed in the published history of the X-Men rather than just adding retconned stories in-between pages of older issues like many other of these type of comics have attempted in the past (examples include the 2nd half of the Classic X-Men series, or Untold Tales of Spider-Man).  

I especially liked the way JLB intersected new stories with the actual appearances of X-Men and related characters (e.g. Magneto) during that time such as the crossover of sorts with FF 102-104.  I was looking forward to seeing how the other intersections would play out, such as:

  • Amazing Spider-Man 92: Iceman 
  • Incredible Hulk 150: Havok and Polaris
  • Amazing Adventures 11-17: Beast solo (Hank mutates to his furry form)
  • Marvel Team-Up 4: Spidey, X-Men, Morbius
  • Avengers 103-104: Larry Trask's Sentinels return
  • Avengers 105: Savage Land Mutates
  • Hulk 161:  The Beast and Mimic (death of?)
  • Avengers 110-111: Magneto and the X-Men
  • Shanna the She-Devil 5:  Professor X and Fred Duncan (last appearance?)
  • Captain America 172-175: X-Men vs. Secret Empire
  • Marvel Team-Up 23: Iceman vs. Human Torch
  • Defenders 15-16:  X-Men,  Magneto & Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, Alpha the Ultimate Mutant turns the evil mutants Magneto into babies.
It would've been fascinating to see how these intersected with the new tales Mr. Byrne would've introduced, and no it didn't need to be limited to 28 issues.  If you look at the real time gap, it was 5 years (1970-1975), so if you factor in the sliding scale that is "Marvel time", it could've been extended for a long time.  



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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 October 2020 at 6:56am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

When XHY was given the chop, I'd given consideration only to the AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 92 appearance of Iceman, tho I planned to get around to all the others, eventually. Part of what I had already set up, in fact, was an explanation of why the X-Men were back in their school uniforms in some of those appearances.

(The real world reason was that UNCANNY had become a reprint book by then, and someone decided it would "confuse the readers" if the X-Men wore different costumes in different books. This, of course, was the same kind of razor-sharp thinking that got my HIDDEN YEARS pitch rejected, originally, as "Two books called X-MEN would be too confusing.")

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