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Steven Brake
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Posted: 04 November 2020 at 12:45pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Is a bit rubbish, isn't it? The puppets and puppeterering are still very good, but the "comedy" is awful.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 04 November 2020 at 1:05pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Just took a look. Wow. You are right!
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Steven Brake
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Posted: 04 November 2020 at 4:01pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Absolutely dreadful. And it's not as if there isn't enough going on in the world crying out to be satirised.
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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Posted: 04 November 2020 at 8:02pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

For what I have watched so far, I like the puppets, and
their "animations". But the humor is terrible,
absolutely not witty at all.A pale comparison to what it
was before, and definitively not as good as the French
"Les guignols" which was inspired by the original
concept.

Just to give you an idea:
Pulp Fiction
parody


Edited by Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle on 04 November 2020 at 8:08pm
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 05 November 2020 at 11:54am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I donít get to see this as it is on a subscription channel I donít subscribe
to.However, I see the odd bit as adverts on Facebook.It just doesnít
seem to have any of the laser like targeting & wit that the original had.

The characters donít seem to be so honed on aspects that point to who
the people are either.

Iím thinking of things like Tebbit & his biker, Major & his peas.Trump is a
gift to them, but their character of him is terrible from what Iíve seen,
nothing like Thatcher or Reagan.

Edited by James Woodcock on 05 November 2020 at 11:55am
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Steven Brake
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Posted: 05 November 2020 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

@James:

Yes, Spitting Image used to be hilarious in its ability to caricature its targets, the puppets often being wickedly fun - and sometimes cruel! - but the personalities being brilliantly parodied too - Maggie Thatcher as a megalomaniac dictator, John Major as a bland grey everyman, Norman Tebbit as a Hell's Angel, etc. 

As posted above, the puppets and puppeteering are still top notch, but the characterisation seems totally off.
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 07 November 2020 at 2:00am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Britbox a channel you have to subscribe to to watch
repeats (You can watch repeats on the normal BBC/ITV
channels!) The only new product is Spitting Image.From
what i have seen from the trailers, the puppets look
fine, but the humour is not there. Also, how do you
parody the likes of Trump and Boris? They're walking
parodies themselves. Not exactly a rival to Netflix and
Disney!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 07 November 2020 at 7:54am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I've been struck the few times I've watched Steven Colbert's OUR CARTOON PRESIDENT that the Washington hierarchy surrounding Trump is almost impossible to caricature.
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 08 November 2020 at 1:54am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Thatís the thing isnít is? They are so far out there, where are you left to
go?

The best parodies are where new takes have been created, such as
the room next door or Sarah Cooper.
Donít try to write new material for them, because you canít be more
crazy than they are, do material around what they are actually doing.

Ah, normalcy, I look forward to a version of you in 100 days
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Steven Brake
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Posted: 08 November 2020 at 6:44am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

@James:

There's the strange paradox that much humour and satire thrives upon the subject of its anger.

Many - MANY! - comedians and satirists here in the UK loathed Thatcher, but when she was gone they missed her as someone they could really get their teeth into. What could you say about John Major - he was polite and dull?

I'll be curious to see how US comedians and satirists respond to Biden rather than Trump as president.


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Petter Myhr Ness
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Posted: 09 November 2020 at 3:54pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Reminds me of the remake they did of YES, PRIME MINISTER, which was an epic failure. None of the wit of the original was kept.
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