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John Byrne

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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 8:44am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

New Latinx Wonder Woman

But she’s already GREEK!!

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Giorgos Goumas
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 10:24am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I never understood what is the appeal of using established characters as of different race or making huge  changes. Create new characters to tell new stories.
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Marc Baptiste
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 10:55am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

JB,

To borrow from ANIMAL FARM - there is diversity and then there is "diversity"!

Marc
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John Byrne

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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 11:31am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

When I was working on WONDER WOMAN a Hollywood type, visiting the DC offices, asked me if there was any reason Wonder Woman couldn’t be Black.

“I suppose not,” I said, “but YOU get to tell the Greco-American community that their only superhero isn’t theirs anymore.”

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Steven Myers
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I think it was in Perez's reboot when Paradise Island started being populated by  more diverse looking group of women.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 4:01pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Indeed—battered and wronged women reborn. Tho the interest of the Greek gods became a little suspect in that context.
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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 4:59pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

It's probably mostly the hand-me-down bit that is fraught with dangers of coming out badly, but the real reason is probably as much that a company owns/can own it as anything else... something new involves dealing with a full creator.

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Peter Martin
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 7:46pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I see it as an attempt to have your cake and eat it -- who is Wonder Woman? Well, it's this new latinx person... For a short while. Then it'll be Diana again. The new character gets to benefit (in theory) from Wonder Woman's halo effect.
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 7:57pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Like with the CW Batwoman, everybody will applaud. Nobody will actually watch. That's the kind of thing that happens in an authoritarian environment. 

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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 22 November 2020 at 12:45pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Wouldn't an "authoritarian" environment literally dictate that you have to watch (or read, as the case may be) whatever agenda is being pushed? It seems extreme to call this "authoritarian", no matter one's opinion on the subject of diversity and how it's handled in entertainment. 
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Jim Burdo
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Posted: 22 November 2020 at 8:59pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Even if this character is successful, "latinx" never will be.
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Adam Schulman
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Posted: 22 November 2020 at 9:44pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

DC Future State is a two-month WHAT IF?, essentially, so it hardly matters. 
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