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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 01 February 2021 at 12:51pm | IP Logged | 1  


Eric: "But I will also say...      GET A GODDAMN SENSE OF HUMOR!"

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Eric, you are being a tone deaf asshole. Don't berate me because your "jokes"
are lacking in anything resembling comedy. If people react this way to your
sense of humor, it means it's not working. It's not the reader's fault. Add to
this your comment ts stupid premise that plays into racial, gender and faith
issues - and you inexplicably keep doubling down on your white privilege with
"not my intent" and "sorry/not sorry get a sense of humor." Gross.

Alcindor is a journalist who made a difference during this awful time. And how
was she treated? She was accused of being a biased activist by the
Republicans. She's not - she's an objective reporter. Comparing her to Kareem
Abdul-Jabbar in the larger sense falls into the same critics who kept calling
Obama a Muslim, even though he is Protestant. In white supremecist culture,
being Muslim is not a compliment to their faith, it is "the other" coded to be
synonymous with terrorist at worst or political activist at best. She is neither.

Alcindor doesn't seem to talk about her religion, which makes sense for a
journalist. But her background is Haitian (she is fluent in Creole), so it's more
likely she is Catholic or Atheist. But it doesn't matter for her job.

You're playing into a stereotype unfairly attributed to Alcindor, yet you don't
seem at all interested in engaging about the reality of her as a journalist or a
person at all. You just keep staring at your naval screaming "ME, ME, ME!!!"




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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 01 February 2021 at 1:20pm | IP Logged | 2  


Michael: "It's really weird that people who feel the need to tell others to 'turn
down the sensitivity' are being super-sensitive about the phrase 'white
privilege.'"

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I agree. And it's disappointing to me to see on this forum.


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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 01 February 2021 at 1:21pm | IP Logged | 3  

Michael R. - Smile emoji, son, smile emoji. I'm not conservative or liberal by party, race, religion, etc. I am some of both because I'm my own person; I go both ways because I decided that's how I want to be.

Tim O'N: - Asshole? Gross? That's hurtful. What did I ever do to you?

And don't start on my white privilege, buddy. Sometimes a joke is just a joke. I've apologized already if I insulted anyone. 

Further, you didn't like my joke. Okay. Until I saw that name here, I'd never HEARD of Alcindor. I shan't explain the joke yet again, as obviously, you don't want to get it and you don't want to hear it. Of course that's your choice.

I am more than willing to discuss her, her situation as a journalist, and any other relevant topics. That wasn't my point. You're piling a lot of blame on something I never intended, nor meant to say. So I'll apologize to you directly. I'm sorry you misinterpreted my joke, and I'm sorry you took offense at anything I said about Ms. Alcindor. I didn't mean to insult her, I didn't mean to insult you. I apologize.

N.B. - Edited to remove inappropriate reference. 


Edited by Eric Sofer on 01 February 2021 at 1:34pm
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 01 February 2021 at 1:30pm | IP Logged | 4  

I'm sorry you misinterpreted my joke, and I'm sorry you took offense at anything I said about Ms. Alcindor.

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Sorry, I don't mean to jump on this too, but I’m sorry [places blame on other person] isn’t really an apology. 
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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 01 February 2021 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | 5  


Eric: "And don't start on my white privilege, boy."

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"Boy?" I'm not your child - seriously, what the fuck??

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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 01 February 2021 at 1:39pm | IP Logged | 6  



I've had enough - I'm locking this down.





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