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Steven Queen
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Posted: 22 February 2021 at 6:02pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

 Dave Kopperman wrote:

The final Wolverine movie was built on that energy, and it may not be a coincidence that it was the most well-received of the bunch.

Logan (the movie) was consciously emulating the acclaimed Shane which also paired up a grizzled veteran (gunfighter) with an innocent. The contrast is life affirming in so much that youth's innocence allows the man who has seen too much (whiling dealing out death) to reconnect with the living.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 22 February 2021 at 6:08pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Haven’t seen LOGAN, haven’t seen SHANE.
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Richard Palmgren
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Posted: 22 February 2021 at 7:06pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I, for one, think the whole Pablo - Logan dynamic is so completely organic and so unexpected that it's completely unique.  It's very layered, either consciously or unconsciously, in its depiction of the relationship so far
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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 23 February 2021 at 6:03am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

It's certainly nothing like any other Logan-youngster friendship I've ever seen. I think a big part of it is they're both vulnerable in this one, as opposed to Pablo simply being Plucky Sidekick Number Forty-Three over in the published comics. 
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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 23 February 2021 at 7:05am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Well, those Shi'Ar sure do have some fancy resurrection tech!
Guess the only question now is what they'll do with Lilandra once they restore her to full health, mentally and physically. It's going to be hard on her to see what she did as Phoenix, I'm betting...
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 February 2021 at 7:10am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

...resurrection tech...

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Sounds like a good title for a science-fiction novel!

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 23 February 2021 at 7:19am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

JB... I'm shocked you've never seen SHANE!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 February 2021 at 7:28am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

JB... I'm shocked you've never seen SHANE!

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Back before home video, it was a movie that would turn up only occasionally on the Late, Late Show. By the time I was old enough to appreciate it, I'd been told the entire plot multiple times.

Felt no need, then, to actually watch it.

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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 23 February 2021 at 7:44am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Under the wrong artist's pencil, that spaceship would look a little goofy.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 February 2021 at 7:49am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Don't know if I'm the "right artist", or if I've just had enough practice! I honestly didn't care much for the Shi'ar "bug ships" when they first appeared. Cool Cockrum designs, yes, but they didn't make sense to me in context. I mean, why bugs?

This was probably at the back of my mind when I drew that Shi'ar "dreadnaught" in the Dark Phoenix story. Not deliberately going against Dave's designs, just looking for something else to draw.

It wasn't until this imaginary story, in fact, that I really started to feel comfortable drawing the ships without being slavishly faithful to Dave's versions. Tweak a little here, tweak a little there.

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 23 February 2021 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Ah, so SHANE was effectively spoiled for you, like you've mentioned ROCKY was too. Okay then!

I agree with Wallace that you're adept at spacecraft -- but that doesn't change my preference that you keep your stories on earth.


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Michael Genitempo
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Posted: 23 February 2021 at 8:19am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Why am I getting an uneasy feeling from all this? <rhetorical question>
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