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Ted Pugliese
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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 6:24am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Ok, you win! Jose is amazing!

As for the Chuck Patton splash I posted, it really
is/was more about the novelty of seeing the guys like
this that cemented the image in my mind. I don't recall
ever seeing something like that before, and I remember
thinking how cool it must be for them to simply hang out
sometimes.
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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 7:42am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

We need an anthology of "My Dinner With..." stories-- adventures told in flashback over dinner, maybe.
Just a thought.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 7:43am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

As for the Chuck Patton splash I posted, it really is/was more about the novelty of seeing the guys like this that cemented the image in my mind. I don't recall ever seeing something like that before, and I remember thinking how cool it must be for them to simply hang out sometimes.

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Indeed it is! As a kid I loved the fact that Hal Jordan and Barry Allen were friends when "off-duty".

But here the old rule must be applied: a splash page, no matter how special or well drawn, is still just one panel, and it advances the story by one panel.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 7:50am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

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Curious detail in that center panel.

It was common, when there was too much copy to fit, for the letterer to actually cut out the panel and lower the art, trimming off a piece at the bottom and, flipping it over, using it to fill in the top.

Instead, here Hank gets a haircut.

I wonder what was considered so special about his trouser cuff that it could not be sacrificed? (Sarcasm aside, the book was probably running "late" and there simply wasn't time for surgery.)

PS: Walt Simonson, who was around the same age as the characters at the time, has joked about how Jack would draw "teenagers" like the X-Men or Johnny Storm. Walter certainly didn't know any teens who dressed like that! Me, up in Canada and four years younger, took was I was fed.

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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 7:55am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Kids didn't wear sports jackets and ties? Well, to be honest, that's not how kids in Sun Prairie, Wis., were dressed either in the early 70s, but maybe things are different in the big city...?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 8:05am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

…maybe things are different in the big city...?

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That was my assumption! But a few years ago I picked up a series of thick digest sized books with illustrations of various decades--amazing reference material--and THE SIXTIES confirmed Walter's observation. Except on rare occasions, teenagers were pretty scruffy!!

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Jim Burdo
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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 8:06am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

One of the complaints about present day comics like the latest She-Hulk series is that the characters are always being shown eating, with no action.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 8:11am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Bet those "stories" are all being written full script. Writers tend to forget what the pictures will actually look like when they start writing their "decompressed" nonsense.

Nothing new. It is, of course, why Wally Wood's studio produced this helpful guide:

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 8:36am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Of all places for Hank not to dress up in a suit... a beat cafe in the Village!

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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 8:40am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I think Peter Parker wore a tie to high school also, back in the Ditko era, though I might be misremembering.

Guessing the artists then were guided by what they knew from when they were young--and high school students *might* have worn sports jackets and ties sometimes, though probably not for things as casual as going to school.


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Rick Senger
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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 11:36am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Those early DC Comics Presents issues by Jose Luis Garcia Lopez remain among my favorites. Great flair but never at the expense of advancing the story.
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Ted Pugliese
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Posted: 19 February 2021 at 2:21pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

And that Firestorm issue he drew in DCCP!?! I became a
fan for life, and now I know him, and he knows my
daughter and likes her singing. It's pretty cool :-)
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