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Jonathan A. Dowdell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 February 2021 at 8:04am | IP Logged | 1
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Loved the graphic novel.
I think Mr. Byrne's handling of She-Hulk is a case study in how to take an underperforming? under-utilized? character and turn them into a character with impact. He was able to develop character elements that made her classic and fresh at the same time.
Not all creators could do this but it's worth looking at She-Hulk's "career" as an model.
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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 132129
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Posted: 28 February 2021 at 9:12am | IP Logged | 2
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It should be kept always in mind that it was Roger Stern who had the inspiration of making Jen HAPPY to be She-Hulk. That immediately took her out of the shadow of her cousin--and gave me something to work with!(Note: When I accepted the WONDER WOMAN assignment there were a small fleet of online commentators who declared all I would be doing there was recycling unused SHE-HULK plots. The shallowness of thinking in some fans truly depresses me, if I let it!)
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 2041
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Posted: 28 February 2021 at 9:36am | IP Logged | 3
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A certain fan segment that use their mind-reading mutant powers for good?
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William Roberge Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 05 July 2006 Location: United States Posts: 11292
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Posted: 28 February 2021 at 11:41am | IP Logged | 4
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I’m the lucky one who has the splash page for this graphic novel...
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John Byrne
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Posted: 28 February 2021 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | 5
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I was at a neighborhood Xmas party some years ago, and as it does it came up that I write and draw comic books. One woman in the group said—with great disdain—that she had never read comic books but had recently found herself getting into graphic novels. As if offering a chance for me to redeem myself, she asked if I had ever done any graphic novels. I said I had done several, and cited SHE-HULK as an example. She was horrified. No! She meant GRAPHIC NOVELS. I took great delight explaining to her that “graphic novel” described publishing format, and had nothing to do with content.
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 October 2013 Location: United States Posts: 2280
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Posted: 28 February 2021 at 11:59pm | IP Logged | 6
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For the longest time, the SHE-HULK gn was the ONLY example I could reference of an actual honest-to-gosh SUPER-HERO graphic novel! Sure, THE DEATH OF CAPTAIN MARVEL could count, but that wasn't exactly even close to being your average super-hero story (more of a character study or sci fi thing--same for Stan and Jack's SILVER SURFER retelling). Eventually, Wolfman and Perez did a NEW TEEN TITANS graphic novel, so then there were two (or three). (Looking back, I might have missed a DAREDEVIL or PUNISHER gn or two, but I'm not sure if those should count either.)
These days, the line between comics and graphic novels is thoroughly blurred as too many things are "planned for the trade" (or trade chapters are presented as monthlies first). And then, of course, you can debate if things like SUPERMAN VS. SPIDER-MAN, MUHAMMAD ALI, or SHAZAM treasury editions should count as technical graphic novels.
What I'm trying to say is that the SHE-HULK graphic novel was appreciated by me as it mostly stood alone for the longest time.
Edited by Eric Jansen on 01 March 2021 at 12:02am
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Scott Adsit Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 11 January 2008 Location: United States Posts: 163
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Posted: 01 March 2021 at 2:49am | IP Logged | 7
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This page stuck with me for decades. I'm here to praise Mr. Byrne for this study in pace and timing.
Reed tells Jen that she is now She-Hulk permanently...
Edited by Scott Adsit on 01 March 2021 at 2:53am
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John Byrne
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Posted: 01 March 2021 at 7:08am | IP Logged | 8
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Thanks, Scott.Sure justifies all the tedious effort of drawing that identical panel five times!!
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Jim Burdo Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 March 2021 at 7:26am | IP Logged | 9
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She seemed pretty happy to be the She-Hulk in Jim Shooter's Avengers too.
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 March 2021 at 4:32pm | IP Logged | 10
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Add me to the list of those who really enjoyed that She-Hulk graphic novel.
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Andrew Bitner Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 March 2021 at 6:21pm | IP Logged | 11
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I love that page- thanks, Scott!
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Jabari Lamar Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 02 March 2021 at 1:57pm | IP Logged | 12
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I just assumed with panels like that, the artist draws it once and then they just photocopy it and put them together one page, not redraw it each time.
Now I find myself compulsively starring at each panel trying to see if I can notice any slight differences.
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