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Gerry Turnbull
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:18am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:23am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I like both versions.  The second one feels just a little more powerful to me.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:25am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Interesting point -- I was still struggling with profiles back then. It took me years to realize the main problem was that I was setting the eyes too far forward, which threw off everything from there down. Curiously, Dave, who was much more skilled than me in that department, didn't redraw the X-Men's profiles!
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Stephen Rockwood
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:27am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

There is nothing wrong with the perspective.  There's nothing wrong with that picture AT ALL.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:29am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Wow thats Kurt who ask Bonnie to dance? The french balloon made it looks like if it was Peter! I thought Kurt was just taking food on the table when i checked it at the occasion of the Bonnie Wilford Claremont thread some weeks ago!



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John Byrne

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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:34am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Art...so...bad... Eyes.... melting..... arrrghugle....
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Charles Jones
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:44am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Hey, charles jones -- is there a reason you clipped
the beginning and end of my post so that it reads like
I'm complaining?
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It was unintentional, I just thought I'd cover the facts, I'll edit it.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:58am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

And note that the funny dialogue between Paty and Bonnie is lost in the translation.

Paty (but she is not named) is the only one who talks and she talks to Dave, Chris and John: "You are finished with doing band appart?!"



Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 16 September 2006 at 8:06am
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Jonathan Watkins
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 8:03am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

This whole thread makes me miss Power Man/Iron Fist.  That was my absolute favorite comic as a kid.  Nobody else I knew read it, so I always felt like I had discovered this great, secret corner in the comic universe.  I really wish that those two characters would be paired again, with the same "buddy-movie" dynamic that made the comic so great.  If I am to indulge one fo those "who would you put on what book" wish scenarios it would be JB returning to a Marvel willing to say "Give us the Heroes For Hire".

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John Byrne

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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Working on POWER MAN & IRON FIST turned out to be a very odd experience for me. At first, I was glad that IF had been given a "reprieve", in whatever form, and I looked forward to working on the new series. But there was something about the first couple of issues that left me absolutely cold. I had read and mostly enjoyed POWER MAN, but I guess I had not plugged into his millieu in quite the way I had with IRON FIST. (I was thinking just the other day, no doubt as a result of working on these pieces, that I had picked up the first MARVEL PREMIERE issues of Iron Fist's adventures and had no idea that series would be my first regular gig at Marvel. No way I could have known, of course, but it was amusing to look back.)

It had been Archie Goodwin's idea to put the two books together, so as to keep alive the "magic" that seemed to be going on between Chris and me, but he understood when I asked to be let off the new book. Sometimes you just hit a wall, creatively, and there's no way to get past it.

And, anyway, X-MEN was already in the works...

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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 8:19am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

"One of the advantages of color lies in the way it can be used to define form and depth. Neither of these aspects are available, obviously, in black and white, so the artist must find other ways to do this."

That must be the reason why I don't like reading B&W reprints of color comics.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 8:24am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I always preffered Iron Fist solo.
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