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Richard Fisher
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Posted: 12 May 2022 at 8:50pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

JB,
I'm re-reading my Captain America comics and I got to #250 and came across a plot line that I don't remember being resolved.

One of the supporting cast, Joshua Cooper, has a letter he has to give to Steve Rogers.

Do you remember what you and Roger Stern were going to do with this story?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 12 May 2022 at 10:17pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

We intended to reveal that the Army had not removed Steve Rogers from the active lists when Captain America disappeared, so he was entitled to a LOG of back pay.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 12 May 2022 at 10:34pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

What is it about your work that makes even a little scene-let like this seem SO COOL?

Weird to say, but I love these three panels!
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Simon Anderson
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Posted: 12 May 2022 at 11:38pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Wasn't that the storyline that Mark Gruenwald ended up doing? Cap used the money to fund his hotline
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Bob Harvey
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Posted: 12 May 2022 at 11:43pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Yes, Gruenwald picked up this thread and had him receive (or perhaps decline?) a bunch of back pay. But then the government wanted more oversight, etc., leading to the John Walker/USAgent storyline.

EDIT: I think he uses the money to buy a new van and finance his hotline.


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John Byrne

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Posted: 13 May 2022 at 12:19am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Yes, I can just see Gruenie thinking What’s the WORST thing that could happen?
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 13 May 2022 at 12:22pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

That third panel is delightfully cinematic, the kind of shift from the first two that a fine director would make. Also, often I think I like JB's work best when he's at his most "quiet."
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John Byrne

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Posted: 13 May 2022 at 12:43pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

It was a long, hard road, getting comfortable with quiet, “ordinary” scenes. As I have often said, we can teach chimps to draw musclebound characters leaping about in skintight suits, but the day-to-day stuff is where the challenge really lies.
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 13 May 2022 at 1:00pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

This would've been excellent: your working on "Thor," but only when the character still featured Dr. Don Blake as his alter ego, in the classic Lee-Kirby vein. The Don Blake parts of such a series would've been, dare I say, maybe even more compelling than the bits where Thor battles Storm Giants?!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 13 May 2022 at 3:39pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

As Len Wein said, you can do all the tales of Asgard you want, but every so often you have to go back to Earth and take your lumps from the Absorbing Man!
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Scot Hay
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Posted: 13 May 2022 at 3:43pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply


It was a long, hard road, getting comfortable with quiet, “ordinary” scenes.

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JB - did you or anyone you know ever take any film making classes to help you with your storytelling -- particularly for these "ordinary" scenes? There are such similarities to me between setting up a shot for a movie and a comic panel -- camera angles etc. The penciler seems very much like a director. 
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John Byrne

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Posted: 13 May 2022 at 3:53pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

The tale is told that when CITIZEN KANE was released comicbook artists of the time flocked to see it multiple times. It became a kind of course in how to framee shots.

Myself, I have not taken any filmmaking courses, tho I do tend to watch most movies with a “third eye” that records such detail.

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