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Daniel Burke
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Posted: 06 August 2022 at 2:39pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

https://twitter.com/comicsxf/status/1555684032347869189?s=21 &t=tvEjUCpFJZ8tPIfXBDz24g

Well, Chris’ spiral into insanity continues. And referring the JB as “the Canadian”? What an asshole. 
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Eric White
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Posted: 06 August 2022 at 4:12pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

After watching some of his interviews on Youtube and reading those remarks on Twitter, I can understand why JB left the X-Men. 
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Anthony Musgrave
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Posted: 06 August 2022 at 4:34pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Do you trust that the people doing the live tweet are factual and impartial?  And that they are not determined to be offended?  Is it just possible that a lot of what they have reported as being offensive statements were said in jest (if they were said at all)?  I'm sure most visitors to this site have witnessed completely baseless character assassinations of JB, so maybe think twice before just accepting what is written about other comic creators.  My advice: don't believe everything you read on the internet.....
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Casey Sager
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Posted: 06 August 2022 at 4:45pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Anthony - Claremont slighting JB goes back a long time. The first time I saw Claremont at a con panel was in the early 1980's and even then he was telling the audience that "obviously" JB made a mistake leaving their partership because the quality of JB's work wasn't nearly as good and looked  "rushed" without Claremont. 
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 06 August 2022 at 6:36pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

One thing about Chris Claremont's ouvre is that, if you imagine it without the brief chapter where he co-wrote stories with JB, it becomes a completely different thing.

Without Dark Phoenix, the Hellfire Club, or Days of Future Past to build upon, large gaps suddenly open in his resume.

This "live-tweeting" of his appearance is obviously unflattering and slanted. But one thing it echoes about his writing is the explosive bursts of creativity that take the conversation off course. IMHO, it's too bad he does not see himself as someone who needs a strong collaborator, because he's always at his best with one.
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Eric Smearman
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Posted: 06 August 2022 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I second that sentiment, Mark. I've enjoyed a lot of
Claremont's writing but the absolute best (imho) stuff was
in collaboration with artists who, themselves, were strong
storytellers like JB and Dave Cockrum or Walter Simonson. I
don't know how much, if any, input Walt had in the plotting
of the X-Men/New Teen Titans team-up but, to me, it reads
like something that wouldn't have landed without him.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 06 August 2022 at 8:00pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

More context, less sensational.
Claremont Convention Appearance
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 06 August 2022 at 8:34pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Less sensational, still a bit cringey. 

I put Chris Claremont in the same box with Grant Morrison as a writer who needs a collaborator or a strong editor to tell them to dial it back a few notches. 
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Kevin Brown
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Posted: 06 August 2022 at 8:40pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

More context, less sensational.

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No less stupid.  "He did it all, no one helped."

And the plans for Kitty?  Downright disrespectful.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 07 August 2022 at 12:14am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Kevin: No less stupid. "He did it all, no one helped."

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You made me look. There is nothing in the article at all that I see regarding credit -- sharing it or hogging it. What are you referring to?
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ron bailey
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Posted: 08 August 2022 at 2:46pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

All pathology aside, i'll give props to his collabs with wildly different creators like Siekevicz, Simonson, Bolton, Adams, Smith and Windsor-Smith.   < id="protanopia"> < id="deuteranopia"> < id="tritanopia">

There's something to be said for that.
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Joe Smith
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Posted: 08 August 2022 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

As someone who has been taking care of his parents thru advancing years
past 70, there comes a point where their views change with the weather, or
the pain in their shoulder, or that they can’t climb stairs anymore.

I am of the mind that we be respectful, maybe reverent, yet, able to let wind
blow free through a chain link fence as we go.

All that need be said has most likely been said, IMO.
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