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James Woodcock
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David Micheline/JRJR/Bob Layton v1

John Byrne/JRJR

Denny O’Neil/Luke McDonald

Fraction/Larocca

Micheline/Layton/Bright
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Michael Wolner Jr
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Lee/Colan
Mantlo/Tuska
John Byrne/JRJR/Ryan
Micheline/JRJR/Bob Layton
Micheline/Layton/Bright
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Jonathan A. Dowdell
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I loved the original David Micheline/JRJR/Bob Layton run. I think it is often the "forgotten" run of Marvel in the early 1980's (I mean forgotten in the lauded Byrne/FF, Miller/Daredevil, Simonson/Thor era).

I liked the Busiek/Chen run during Heroes Return, as well. 
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 04 August 2022 at 11:32pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

"Hey, can anyone help me with identifying an Iron Man story?"

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Wallace, not sure how far you go back but my comic intro to the Mandarin was a story that culminated in #100 where he seemed to be using many of his rings.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Posted: 05 August 2022 at 8:23am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Hey, can anyone help me with identifying an Iron Man story?

[... }Iron Man battles the Mandarin. In the story, the Mandarin uses each of rings to attack Iron Man, and may have been operating from a base on an island

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An island, or that:? 


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Greg McPhee
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One of the key things JB's run did on IM was bring The Mandarin back front and centre as Iron Man's arch enemy.

He had previously been used by O'Neill / McDonnell in issues 179 - 181, and Michelinie / Layton in issues 241 - 243, and that was the extent of his use in the 80's as an Iron Man foe. Obviously Michelinie and Layton used Roxxon, Madame Masque, the Maggia and Justin Hammer as foes in their runs, and O'Neill /McDonnell had Obadiah Stane, but the lack of use of the character baffled me until I read an interview with Bob Layton.

Layton said they wanted to use The Mandarin but couldn't come up with a good enough story that would serve both Iron Man and The Mandarin well. When they did use him they felt the story wasn't the best and ended up being overshadowed by Kathy Dare shooting Tony at the end.

Fair play for admitting a short coming. 
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Greg McPhee
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One of the good things about writers like Michelinie / Layton, O'Neill, Byrne and Kaminski was that they did things in their stories that had an effect or changed the character (the alcoholism for better or worse), but knew enough to put the toys back in their box at the end of their runs while still leaving enough breadcrumbs for successive teams to build on. 

Kaminski taking a lot from the Michelinie / Layton plots and Byrne plots in his run while still using his own ideas.
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Wallace Sellars
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Stéphane, I don’t think that’s it, but am still interested in reading that story! Can you tell me what title and issue that is?
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Eric White
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I looked through a bunch of Iron Man comics but didn't see him using all ten rings. One story had him using maybe 5 rings but then resorted to his lethal karate chops. lol

That page is from IM #69. A three parter with the Yellow Claw.
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Eric White
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In issue 100 the Mandarin used 7 of his rings. I'm enjoying the Bill Mantlo run, haven't read it in years. 

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Stéphane Garrelie
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Wallace:
it's from Iron Man #69 by Mike Friedrich and George Tuska; it's the central part of a 3 parts story-arc that is part of the War of the Super-Villains.
It's in the next issue that the Mandarin falls in the trap of the Yellow Claw and "dies" (his rings -where, we will later learn, he transfered his mind- being collected by a servant, that will become the host/new body of the Mandarin, as seen in the  Bill Mantlo run)
While later issues of the War of the Super-Villains may be the worst Iron Man stuff published before the 90s, at this point it is still good. It will continue to be good up to the moment  George Tuska leave for a time the series. The end of the War Of The Super-Villains/Black Lama story is almost unreadable, but the Mike Friedrich run wasn't awful from the start.

Now, Kirby drawing the Mandarin, i mean drawing the story, not just plotting and doing covers covers for Iron Man or the Avengers, i see only The Inhumans feature in Amazing Adventures, and he isn't on  an Island.

For the Mandarin using all his rings, his early stories by Stan Lee and Don Heck are what comes to mind.


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Rebecca Jansen
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David Michelinie with Romita Jr., Bob Layton and Jerry Bingham (the earlier run)

John Byrne with Paul Ryan

Kurt Busiek (& Roger Stern sometimes) with Sean Chen or Patrick Zircher

Stan Lee (& Robert Bernstein sometimes) with Don Heck

David Michelinie with Bob Layton and Jackson Guice (the return run)
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