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John Byrne

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Posted: 10 June 2019 at 7:05pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

AHHRRGH!

Written by Chris Claremont

Art by John Byrne

Really??

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Shane Matlock
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Posted: 10 June 2019 at 8:45pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Looks like Fox's decision to let Simon Kinberg, the guy who wrote the worst X-Men movie to date, The Last Stand, which adapted the same material and very poorly at that, not only adapt the same story again but direct this time has done exactly what everyone thought it would do, and tanked with the critics, fans, and box office. Estimates are that it will lose over 100 million dollars and has the worst box office of any X-Men movie to date. It's a real shame that they didn't at least let someone else have a go at adapting one of X-Men and comic's greatest stories ever. Not sure it would've turned out much better but we'd already seen the results of letting Kinberg write it. Does Hollywood never learn from its mistakes?
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Mal Gardiner
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Posted: 11 June 2019 at 1:38am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

It was a pretty good précis, right up to the botched credits page at the end...
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Jozef Brandt
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Posted: 12 June 2019 at 1:52am | IP Logged | 4 post reply


You'd think the official YouTube channel for Marvel Entertainment could open a flap and read a credit in a comic.  (Heck, they even say it's available in their digital archive).  Yikes.
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Jonathan A. Dowdell
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Posted: 12 June 2019 at 2:54pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I may be late to this thread. Lots of problems with this movie but to me the biggest one is they do nothing to make you care about these characters. The actors and the simplistic story don't help but the movie was absent any feeling. You don't care about the heroes, the villains are one dimensional, and the ending gives you nothing emotionally. 
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John Byrne

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Posted: 13 June 2019 at 11:08am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

DARK PHOENIX messes up DOFP

Well, since they’ in the WRONG ORDER I guess that’s inevitable, right?

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 13 June 2019 at 11:20am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

What kind of iron gut you must have, JB, to constantly witness your work butchered and celebrated at the same time?!
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Paul Gibney
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Posted: 13 June 2019 at 1:57pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

--Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools
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Jason Scott
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Posted: 13 June 2019 at 2:33pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

DARK PHOENIX messes up DOFP

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Personally I don't think it does. As there's a lot of years between 1992 when Dark Phoenix takes place and whatever future the end of Days of Future Past is set in. Given that you see the Phoenix effect in the sky at the end of Dark Phoenix, it's not a great leap to take that as a sign of Jean coming back.(Not entirely dissimilar to what we saw at the end of X2.)

Of course because we won't have another Fox X-men movie we won't see that event play out onscreen. But Days of Future Past's future scene nonetheless assures us that it does happens. That's how I've taken it anyway.

Of course then 'Logan' ruins that happy ending.. :(
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 13 June 2019 at 6:30pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

On the subject of time...

I've heard from a few different critics about how much Charles Xavier and Magneto must age in just about seven or eight years, based on the ages of the actors in the roles from "Dark Phoenix" leading to the actors in the same roles for "X-Men" (2000). However, in the 2000 film, it states it takes place in the "near future." So, it's kind of nebulous on just how many more years it is before James McAvoy would look as old as Patrick Steward did in the first film.


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Bill Collins
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Posted: 15 June 2019 at 12:12pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I read a review today that said The Orville`s Halston
Sage plays Dazzler in it, i may watch it when it`s
available to stream out of curiosity!
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 15 June 2019 at 1:00pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Let me save you the trouble of scrubbing through a video for a quick cameo. 


Weird that they went with Disco Dazzler for a movie set in the 90s. Although the 70s Retro thing was popular when I was school back then, so I guess it works if she’s a retro act.  
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