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John Byrne

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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 7:26am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I wonder if they will find another way for Wolverine to be the one who actually kills her.
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 8:33am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

JB's post brings up an interesting question: Will Wolverine be a part of this new film? Supposedly, Hugh Jackman is done with the role after "Logan," so unless they recast the character, this might be the first "X-Men" film without a Wolverine appearance (even in cameo).
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 9:11am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I am reminded of Daniel Craig's declarations of no more
Bond, then the carrot of a big paycheck us dangled before
him! But if Jackman does return,the age gap between him
and the current Jean is a bit much.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 9:15am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Jackman was badly cast as Wolverine. Too tall, too pretty.

I would be delighted to see the Studio challenge the audience with a Wolverine who looked like Baretta rather than Dirty Harry.

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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 11:29am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

A faithful adaptation would require more than three years of story (X-MEN 100 thru 138) to be compressed into about two hours of screen time.
What are the odds?


So true - and as I've often mentioned here, ideally a TV series works best. Look how well the framework of THE WALKING DEAD and GAME OF THRONES has worked.

X-MEN could really build this epic storyline well using a similar format.

-C!

* Agree also that casting Wolverine in the future should be closer to actor Robert Blake rather than a Hugh Jackman clone.




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Bill Collins
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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 2:32pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Just watched Kinberg's Fantastic Four on Netflix...my
expectations were not high,but this film managed to delve
to subterranean levels.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 5:47pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Somehow I missed that it was THAT director. Any whisper of hope disappears. And this thread goes on IGNORE.
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Shane Matlock
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Posted: 01 September 2017 at 12:06am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Kinberg didn't direct Fantastic Four. Josh Trank did and I don't see him getting any big films again for a long time, if ever. This is the first film that Kinberg has ever directed though which doesn't seem very hopeful either and he is listed in the screenplay credits of that horrible FF movie. He also helped write X-men: The Last Stand (which I mistakenly called X-Men United in my earlier post... oops), so he's essentially adapting the same story again after doing it so poorly in the Last Stand. WTF?
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 01 September 2017 at 7:08am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I didn`t say Kinberg directed Fantastic Four,just
mentioned his involvement(i should have made it clear
that he was on the writing team),the fact that he`s been
given the job of writing AND directing the new X-Men
film by Fox mystifies me! Why is it beyond these people
tp make a straight adaption? As a fan,i don`t want `Body
horror` or `grounded` superheroes,unless said characters
are `grounded` in their comic,like Daredevil.
The fact that in the new FF film the characters saw
their new abilities as afflictions not superpowers made
me despair!
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 01 September 2017 at 9:23am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

King erg is a mystery to me. I hate his X-Men and Fantastic Four and yet he is in the mix with Rebels. I assume he is limited there though
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 01 September 2017 at 11:16am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Not sure without looking it up if he`s involved with New
Mutants,but from what i`ve read,there will be no
uniforms and it will be a horror...
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Shane Matlock
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Posted: 01 September 2017 at 8:49pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Kingberg has co-written a few decent X-Men films IMO (First Class, Days of Future Past, although that one had little to do with the comic but was okay) as well as the worst (The Last Stand). And I really enjoyed his Rebels stuff. Maybe he should stick with Star Wars.

And, good lord, at that New Mutants take, Bill. Ugh.

I was just clarifying that he's not directing for JB, although I guess he's ignoring this thread now. Not sure that I blame him though as this film is probably going to stink. 
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