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Brian O'Neill
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Posted: 17 January 2018 at 5:59pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Tackling a few series in one post"
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: Steven Hill, who played Briggs, was fired as quietly as possible after season 1. He was also let go from a regular role as the D.A. in the first season of LAW AND ORDER. Most sources agree that  he was difficult to work with. Some specifically say he angered colleagues on both series by making anti-Semitic remarks. Maybe we can assume his characters both 'turned bad' and were caught offscreen..it's not like either show spent much time reminiscing about guys they busted.

BARNEY MILLER: About a year after Chano last appeared, Dietrich(who'd been on once before, as a guest star[that episode where he did the Gregory Peck impression] ) reported for work as Chano's 'permanent' replacement...it seems the paperwork had been lost for the past year! Realistic bit of 'red tape'.
Another female detective, Batista, replaced Wentworth(who was said to have transferred...all the the way to Phoenix...but her car broke down outside a diner, and she took a waitressing job instead...), but Batista was soon dropped, thy didn't add anymore female or minority characters, and the 12th Precinct became 'a bunch of white guys and Harris'.
M*A*S*H: The idea in season 1 was to feature many of the same characters from the movie, making it an 'ensemble' show. Besides the Spearchucker 'historical anomaly', there were simply too many minor characters to keep track of (even many of the supporting cast developed for the show disappeared soon, like the various generals, and black marketeers in the village). So, they got rid of Ho John the 'houseboy', Ugly John, Lt. Dish, etc. Even the 'colorful' 'Dago Red' Mulcahy was replaced by his gentler brother, Francis('JOCULARITY!")
Confining the cast to people who had reason to be in the OR worked out a lot better for the show, in most respects.


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Brian O'Neill
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Posted: 17 January 2018 at 6:07pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Ted Downum:
I'm not sure if pets count, but whenever someone mentions disappearing TV characters, I immediately think of Tiger, the family dog on The Brady Bunch.
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The dog that 'played' Tiger died after a couple of years(supposedly hit by a car...BAD Tiger!). I guess they weren't ready for an episode acknowledging something like that in 1972, so they just left the doghouse in the yard, and I guess Tiger slept through every episode after that.
Or...Cousin Oliver killed him, in a Symbionese Liberation Army initiation gone horribly awry.
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Posted: 18 January 2018 at 4:27am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

The little boy "7" in MARRIED WITH CHILDREN seemed to have vanished as well. 
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Posted: 18 January 2018 at 7:54am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Sgt. Kinchloe on HOGAN'S HEROES. Ivan Dixon was replaced as he went into directing with Sgt. Baker (Kenneth Washington) taking his place.

Mayor Pike on THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW (actor Dick Elliot died during season 2).  Also several of Andy's prospective love interests simply disappeared - pharmacist/councilwoman Ellie Walker (Elinor Donahue), nurse Peggy Walker (Joanna Moore) and nurse Mary Simpson (Julie Adams/Sue Ane Langdon) among them.  Barney might want to check into that.

(Many of the ones that immediately came to mind like Chuck Cunningham, Yeoman Rand, Dr. Pulaski and cousin Oliver have been mentioned already)



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Tim Cousar
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Posted: 18 January 2018 at 9:20am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Cousin Oliver was in the final episode of The Brady Bunch, so he didn't disappear. Mike Brady, on the other hand, did not appear in that last episode.
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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 18 January 2018 at 11:40am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

"The little boy "7" in MARRIED WITH CHILDREN seemed to have vanished as well. "

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He pretty much literally did...to the point that he was shown on a milk carton on a later episode.
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MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: Steven Hill, who played Briggs, was fired as quietly as possible after season 1. He was also let go from a regular role as the D.A. in the first season of LAW AND ORDER. Most sources agree that  he was difficult to work with. Some specifically say he angered colleagues on both series by making anti-Semitic remarks. Maybe we can assume his characters both 'turned bad' and were caught offscreen..it's not like either show spent much time reminiscing about guys they busted. 


Steven Hill was on L&O for 10 seasons. And I thought the problem with MISSION IMPOSSIBLE was that Hill was an Orthodox Jew who strictly observed the Sabbath, and it was becoming a problem for the producers working with his schedule. 
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 Michael Roberts wrote:
And I thought the problem with MISSION IMPOSSIBLE was that Hill was an Orthodox Jew who strictly observed the Sabbath, and it was becoming a problem for the producers working with his schedule.

That is what I have read in numerous books and magazines.
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Eric Sofer wrote:

There was "Happy Days", where Chuck Cunningham simply didn't appear anymore.
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Chuck changed actors from season one to season two, and THEN vanished, never to be seen again! AND he was retroactively removed from continuity, so Richie went from being the middle child to the eldest son.
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Tim Cousar
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Posted: 18 January 2018 at 4:49pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Right. In the series finale, Howard Cunningham says something about his and Marion's "two children."
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Posted: 18 January 2018 at 7:24pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Michael Roberts has it mostly right about Steven Hill. His religious observances are what caused problems on MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE, but refusing to do a stunt was the last straw.


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Brian O'Neill
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Posted: 18 January 2018 at 10:02pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Tim Cousar:


Right. In the series finale(of HAPPY DAYS),Howard Cunningham says something about his and Marion's "two children."
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There is a well-known blooper' from the last episode(an intentional interruption), in which, after Bosley delivers that line during his wedding toast for Joanie and Chachi) ('...we have two wonderful children...'), Marion Ross pipes up "So, where IS Chuck, anyway?", and everybody has that one last tension-breaking crack-up they needed during filming.

Years later, the writers for THAT '70S SHOW adapted the line for Kitty to refer to Laurie Forman in the final episode of that series.

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Brian O'Neill
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Robert Bradley:
Sgt. Kinchloe on HOGAN'S HEROES. Ivan Dixon was replaced as he went into directing with Sgt. Baker (Kenneth Washington) taking his place.

Mayor Pike on THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW (actor Dick Elliot died during season 2).  Also several of Andy's prospective love interests simply disappeared - pharmacist/councilwoman Ellie Walker (Elinor Donahue), nurse Peggy Walker (Joanna Moore) and nurse Mary Simpson (Julie Adams/Sue Ane Langdon) among them.  Barney might want to check into that.

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The 'Baker for Kinch' thing was just weak.They were pretty much pretedning it was the same chaarcter, with a different name, and acting like he'd been there all along. The Mandela Effect on HOGAN'S HEROES?
As for THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW, the story most often told was that Griffith didn't feel he and Donahue had good 'screen chemistry', and it was his decision. Donahue has more or less confirmed she wasn't happy with her experience on the show(she went through a period of depression around that time, having gone straight from FATHER KNOWS BEST to 'Andy'), but says she asked to leave, and nobody really tried to talk her into staying, so that was it for her.
Joanne Moore was supposed to become a regular on the show in 1963, but she had substance-abuse issues(although they worsened after she'd left Griffith's show, and really derailed her career later in the decade, after her divorce from Ryan O'Neal). Again, few details about any conflict(personal or professional) between her and Griffith are available, so whetehr this was another case of 'chemistry issues', or Moore's own behavior, is one of those 'Mayberry Mysteries'.
Obviously, there were no 'chemistry' issues once 'Helen Crump' came along...but she was annoying.


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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 18 January 2018 at 11:52pm | IP Logged | 14 post reply

Of Andy's exes, Elinor Donahue was a great actress, but her character was kind of grating. Peggy Walker is the only one of Andy's exes that I liked. And I completely agree about Helen Crump being annoying. 
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Roberto Melendrez
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Wasn't a fan of Helen's either. I'm with Brian, Peggy was very likeable and very easy on the eyes. Loved her good natured teasing of Andy and her stepping up to hang out with Opie.

Remo (played by Jay Thomas) & his sister disappeared without a trace from Mork & Mindy.

Plenty of characters disappeared on the Sopranos (like the Rap Mogul and Adrianna's boyfriend who was in that awful band) but a lot of that was due to the years long hiatus between seasons.


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Brian O'Neill
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Posted: 19 January 2018 at 12:23am | IP Logged | 16 post reply

The late and not all that lamented Jay Thomas took a radio gig around the time left MORK AND MINDY, but he had a pattern of assholish behavior towards cast members that began with that series, and continued through every other show he worked on.

Meanwhile, back in Mayberry... the advent of Helen Crump was a sign of shark fins in the good ol' fishin' hole. Griffith had a major attitude off-camera, and it started to show up on-camera about midway through the series.
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Posted: 19 January 2018 at 2:42am | IP Logged | 17 post reply

This still happens!  SUPERIOR DONUTS just dumped two characters when it came back for season 2--Officer James Jordan was said to have transferred to another station, but student Maya (Mikhail Baryshnikov's actress daughter) disappeared without a mention.  (At least she had some storylines--I didn't even realize that the cop was gone!)

But nothing beats sitcom KEVIN CAN WAIT killing off the wife between seasons!  (Not an unexplained disappearance, but still a little weird!)


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Brian Miller
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Posted: 19 January 2018 at 8:26am | IP Logged | 18 post reply

Helen was the worst. I wish she never showed up on TAGS. Ellie Walker was the best for me. 
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I stopped watching THE SIMPSONS after the show peaked, but did they ever mention the disappearance (or more precisely, de-emphasis)  of Lionel Hutz or Troy McClure after the death of Phil Hartman?  (I know both characters have made cameo appearances in crowd scenes since, but have not had speaking roles).



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Robert Bradley
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And include me in the group who though Helen Crump was a dreadful character.

But I think the biggest changes in the show progressed were Andy going from a folksy, fun-loving guy to a crotchety authority figure in the later years of the show and the inability to replace classic characters like Gomer, Barney and Floyd.  Part of it was undoubtedly the writing, but characters like Goober, Warren, Howard, Emmett and Sam didn't exactly inspire.
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Posted: 19 January 2018 at 10:13am | IP Logged | 21 post reply

Enos left Hazzard for his own show (moving to Los Angeles), but eventually returned(and his replacement, Cletus, got phased out).
Coy and Vance were written out as quickly as possible once Wopat and Schneider agreed to new contracts.

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Yeah, it was ultra-fast. They disappeared forever within a minute or so of Bo and Luke's return. Like:

Bo and Luke: (drive up) Hey, we're back!
Coy and Vance: Great, see ya! (drive off)

And yet they still went to the trouble of re-editing the show's opening credits to include all 4 actors for that episode only.
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On GOOD TIMES, John Amos was fired from the show after season 3 and his character James Evans was killed off at the beginning of season 4. Later in season 4, Esther Rolle's character, Florida Evans, began dating Carl Dixon and became engaged.  Esther Rolle left the show at the end of season 4. In season 5 it was said that Florida and Carl had gotten married and moved away.  Esther Rolle returned to the series for season 6.  Florida came back for Thelma's wedding and then stayed afterwards.  Florida gave Michael a gift that was from her and Carl.  Other than that brief mention, Carl isn't mentioned at all for the rest of the series.
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Robbie,regarding T.J. Hooker,i have vague memories of
Adrian Zmed leaving to start a (failed)career as a rock
star,maybe his leaving was a sore point and they acted
as if he`d never been there?
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Two Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Place not only lost a couple of its secondary characters, but its pizza place along with a third of its title.
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Brian O'Neill
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Robert Bradley:
And include me in the group who though Helen Crump was a dreadful character.

But I think the biggest changes in the show progressed were Andy going from a folksy, fun-loving guy to a crotchety authority figure in the later years of the show and the inability to replace classic characters like Gomer, Barney and Floyd.  Part of it was undoubtedly the writing, but characters like Goober, Warren, Howard, Emmett and Sam didn't exactly inspire.
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Years ago, I read that Griffith and Knotts would have either both left, or both stayed, after season 5. Then, they were all set to renew their contracts together, with the understanding that Knotts would get and sign his contract after Griffith. 
However, Knotts got that movie offer from Universal right after Griffith had finalized his deal...and so, Griffith felt he had to go through with it and get it over with. He wasn't happy about it, and it spilled over into the character, who wanted nothing to do with those hicks who kept bothering him.(Similarly, as Elizabeth Montgomery and William Ashe were having a disatrous marriage disintegration in season 8 of BEWITCHED, Samantha became a huge bitch onscreen).
I'm amazed that the Nielsens for TAGS 'color years' actually increased over the black and white seasons. TAGS was number 1 for its last year, despite possibly being the worst of all.
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