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Matt H - Whether Trump and Russia stole the election remains a sticky point to prove, but there is a lot of evidence regarding whether or not they tried-- all of it tending toward Yes, they tried and none of it tending toward no, they didn't.
Matt, I'd be curious to see the evidence that shows that the campaign was working with Russia, or made serious attempts to work with them. If there is, I'd be interested in reading about it.
Now certainly Trump has ties to Russian businesses (as well as business ties in over 2 dozen other countries). He's been doing business there since the late 80's. And doing business in Russia certainly puts you in contact with Russian government officials. How could it not? Their corrupt government is involved in every area of business there. People seem to view these connections as somehow showing collusion, but there has to be more to it than just that.
Robbie P. - Paul, to be fair, and these are only three examples, the threads on guns, religion, and movies/TV show the variety of opinions. Guns are another one. Most here advocate gun control and have issues with the availability of guns, but I've read posts here from those who are pro-2nd Amendment/pro-guns. No-one has been censored.
Robbie, I've read a lot of the religious posts over the years, and frankly there's not a lot of pro-religious views on the list. There are some, but they're generally mocked. As for gun debates, I've read all of those discussions over the years. I'm on the fence regarding the scope of the second amendment, and my feelings on guns in general. But If you think the pro-second amendment, or gun ownership side hasn't been censored over the years, I suggest you re-read some of those threads.I've seen those people shut off more than once. Call it censorship, or something else, but those ideas are often not allowed to be expressed.
- I do know enough to realize dissenting options aren't welcomed here, which I think is a shame. JB •••It certainly would be, if it was true.
JB, again I'd suggest you revisit some of the gun discussions that have taken place over the years. Those who disagree have been far from welcomed, and have been discouraged or banned in some cases as I recall.
Michael - North Korea has announced a freeze on nuclear /testing/ and are dismantling one of their testing facilities. Because they no longer need it. It’s a move they’ve made before, and stating they no longer need it is not a move toward denuclearization. The US and USSR no longer need nuclear testing either, because they have a mature weapons program.
Michael, NK has stopped nuclear testing, suspended nuclear missile testing, and stopped launches of ICBMs. Their nuclear program is far from completed or mature. They have a long way to go with their delivery system. How is there any way this can be seen as anything other than positive? Couple that with Kim Jong-un's meetings with South Korean and Chinese officials, and what was once a troubling situation is looking to be ultimately well played by Trump.
Eric- As for what he's (Trump) done that's good - I have to admit that I'm at a loss to think of very much. You noted that North Korea has stopped manufacturing nuclear weapons, and I don't know if that's true or not. I do know that North Korea has nuclear weapons. I know that compared to the United States, they are gnats. Thus, when the United States president threatens them vehemently and continually, they have only one realistic defense. When the U.S. government says that they WILL be attacked with nuclear weapons, it's hard to imagine any response other than desperate self-defense.
Eric, I think that NK has shown that they did have another option other than using their nuclear weapons, and that is to suspend their program. That was the best case scenario, and the one they seem to have chosen. You may not agree with how Trump went about things, but ultimately only the results matter.
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