Byrne Robotics: Tomorrow / 2112

The John Byrne Forum MOBILE
Byrne Robotics \| The John Byrne Forum		<< Prev Page of 3 Next >>

Topic: Tomorrow / 2112

Post Reply | Post New Topic

Author

Message

Eric Sofer
Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 31 January 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 4789

Posted: 23 October 2018 at 10:04am \| IP Logged \| 1	post reply

Mr. Byrne, I see that you used Captain America, Spider-Man, the Thing, and Wolverine for your collection of 20th century heroes. Would you use a different quartet depending on where your baseline was? I mean, notwithstanding the obvious - you wouldn't use Wolverine or Iron Fist for a 60s grouping. But, if you were trying set a 60s, 70s, 80s, etc. group, would you change the heroes? Or are there a basic group that are representative of heroes from any era? Thanks!

profile | search

Nathan Greno
Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 April 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 9154

Posted: 24 October 2018 at 2:09pm \| IP Logged \| 2	post reply

I've read 2112 soooo many times, that seeing Thomas Kirkland salute Nick Fury is just... weird!!!

Fun seeing these pages!

profile | search

Jason K Fulton
Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 23 September 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 695

Posted: 24 October 2018 at 5:03pm \| IP Logged \| 3	post reply

There's an alternate reality out there where 2112 was published as Tomorrow, and Sathanas became a really great Marvel / X-Men villain. Assuming the ending of the Tomorrow oneshot was somewhat analogous to what we got with 2112.

profile | search

John Byrne

Grumpy Old Guy

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 132292

Posted: 24 October 2018 at 5:59pm \| IP Logged \| 4	post reply

No, TOMORROW (for ease of discussion) would have used strictly Marvel lore.

profile | search

Jason K Fulton
Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 23 September 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 695

Posted: 24 October 2018 at 6:26pm \| IP Logged \| 5	post reply

Do you think there was ever a possibility of both Tomorrow and 2112? Or would it have been an either/or proposition?

profile | search

John Byrne

Grumpy Old Guy

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 132292

Posted: 24 October 2018 at 6:47pm \| IP Logged \| 6	post reply

It could only have been one or the other.

(Coincidentally, it was at this time Bob Harras asked me if I’d like to do a SHIELD book. Took no time at all to decline, when I learned they wanted to make SHIELD the bad guys!)

profile | search

Tim O Neill
Byrne Robotics Security

Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 10926

Posted: 24 October 2018 at 7:09pm \| IP Logged \| 7	post reply

It's really cool to see the page, but I am glad Marvel didn't work out. 2112 and NEXT MEN are among my all time favorite books, and I am glad JB had the freedom to do it exactly as we see it today

If it was done at Marvel, then Sathanas would be a good guy by now! He would have been retconned into a misunderstood philanthropist.

profile | search

Jason K Fulton
Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 23 September 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 695

Posted: 24 October 2018 at 7:37pm \| IP Logged \| 8	post reply

I guess every long creative career is going to generate a lot of "sliding door" / what-if moments, but it really feels like JB's career has had a lot of them. Off the top of my head (and not numbered as any sort of preference):

1) JB stays on X-Men

2) JB is allowed to continue on the FF while doing Superman at the same time

3) Tomorrow vs 2112 / Next Men

4) That Avengers West Coast / Immortus storyline

5) Danger Unlimited

6) Freaks

7) the gap years between the two She-Hulk runs

8) both of the Hulk runs

And for every one of those, there's probably two more projects that we never even heard about!

profile | search

Nathan Greno
Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 April 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 9154

Posted: 25 October 2018 at 11:56am \| IP Logged \| 9	post reply

Jason: I guess every long creative career is going to generate a lot of "sliding door" / what-if moments, but it really feels like JB's career has had a lot of them

----

Off the top of MY head...

9) A SHAZAM! series

10) Finishing The Last Galactus Story

11) The Spider-Man/Man-Thing/Ghost Rider one shot

12) The Danger Unlimited/Prototykes one shot

13) The Boogie Man series that JB pitched at Marvel

14) An adaptation of City at World's End

15) A Penny Dreadful comic

16) The Invanders/JSA one shot

17) A Batman/Two-Face issue -- part of the 'No Man's Land' storyline

18) A Metal Men series

19) A Dr. Strange series

20) What If Magneto had formed the X-Men?

Fun to think about what these projects could have been -- but it's MORE important to remember all the great projects we DID get.

profile | search

Joe Murray
Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 15 February 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 230

Posted: 25 October 2018 at 1:49pm \| IP Logged \| 10	post reply

...but it's MORE important to remember all the great projects we DID get.

*********

Totally agree!

I think I've heard of and/or seen sketches & pages from most of the 20 listed... except this Boogie Man series, intriguing!!

profile | search

Jim Petersman
Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 26 June 2012
Location: United States
Posts: 625

Posted: 25 October 2018 at 2:01pm \| IP Logged \| 11	post reply

"The Boogie Man series that JB pitched at Marvel "

__________________________________________

Say what now??

profile | search

John Byrne

Grumpy Old Guy

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 132292

Posted: 25 October 2018 at 4:40pm \| IP Logged \| 12	post reply

Roger Stern had an idea for a character called Boogie Man. I offered to draw it. We pitched it to Shooter, and without even asking the concept he said “You have to spell it correctly.”

Right. Bogey Man. Because Magneto didn’t cause enough pronunciation problems.

Dead in the water.

profile | search

<< Prev Page of 3 Next >>
	Post Reply \| Post New Topic \|

You are currently viewing the MOBILE version of the site.
CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE FULL SITE