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Eric Sofer
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| Posted: 25 March 2019 at 11:21am | IP Logged | 1
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Corollary: how unstoppable is "unstoppable"? Obviously he can stop walking. But what if he were propelled into the air? Or if he simply jumped? If the Juggernaut did an up, up, and away action... would he fly off into the universe?
It was one of those Robbie P. questions - could the Fantastic Four beat the Juggernaut - and I figured that if they could get him moving, Sue could put a force field ramp in front of him, he run upwards... and there goes the Juggernaut.
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Andrew Cate
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As Brian pointed out it depends on how early in the fight it is. Sasquatch has put Hulk down before...that is until Hulk reaches a certain point on his rage meter. If Juggernaut blindsides Hulk while he is walking out of a Starbucks there is a good chance he puts him down for the count. If Hulk is walking out of the DMV after a 2 hour wait Hulk will stomp him.
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Walt Hall
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| Posted: 25 March 2019 at 2:07pm | IP Logged | 3
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The Juggernaut has limitless strength drawn from the limitless mystical energy of Cyttorak and the Crimson Cosmos. The enchantment proclaiming him a Human Juggernaut by definition made him an overwhelming force.
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Thomas Woods
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The Juggernaut has limitless strength drawn from the
limitless mystical energy of Cyttorak and the Crimson
Cosmos. The enchantment proclaiming him a Human
Juggernaut by definition made him an overwhelming force.
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Where does he hide the Cyttorack?
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Greg McPhee
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Doesn't Juggernaut draw / channel his powers from the gem? After he touched it, it imbued him with them . Pretty sure he doesn't have it on him.
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Walt Hall
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| Posted: 25 March 2019 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | 6
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I think he absorbed the gem and enchantment into himself if I remember correctly at some later point. Basically he is a conduit for the mystical energy which is supposedly limitless.
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Adam Schulman
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All that power and yet the Juggernaut has never been an "I'm going to take over the world!!" type. So much power, such limited imagination.
(If I'm wrong, please point me to a comic where Cain Marko goes beyond a "gimme the loot" mentality.)
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Walt Hall
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A great point and one I think Professor X has actually stated more than once. I believe during the Trion Juggernaut saga he said he was grateful that Cain never had the imagination to use the full extent of his power.
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Ronald Joseph
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I think he absorbed the gem and enchantment into himself if I remember correctly at some later point. Basically he is a conduit for the mystical energy which is supposedly limitless.
MARVEL TEAM-UP #150 (the last issue of the series) featured Spider-Man and the X-Men. In the story, Cain gives Cyttorak to Black Tom as a birthday gift and upon touching it, the power was split between the two of them. Black Tom grew, Cain shrank.
I don't know if that has ever occurred or been retconned since, but the implication of the story was that the limitless power of the gem did, indeed, have limits. I didn't particularly care for that story detail.
Edited by Ronald Joseph on 26 March 2019 at 6:41am
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John Byrne
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About 90% of what happened in MTU should stay in MTU. Most of the stories were wildly off-model for the characters—especially Spider-Man, the eternal “loner”.Like those Batman team-ups in BRAVE & BOLD, they take place off to one side somewhere, maybe in the same “universe” as SPIDEY SUPER-STORIES!
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Brandon Carter
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About 90% of what happened in MTU should stay in MTU. Most of the stories were wildly off-model for the characters—especially Spider-Man, the eternal “loner”.Like those Batman team-ups in BRAVE & BOLD, they take place off to one side somewhere, maybe in the same “universe” as SPIDEY SUPER-STORIES! ********* That's a good way of putting it. As a youngster, Spider-Man was my favorite character and I sought to get a complete run of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN and PETER PARKER THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN (with reprints of issues being acceptable). I never really felt compelled to get a complete run of MARVEL TEAM-UP though. The stories just felt negligible and even though they were in continuity, it seemed like they weren't.
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Ronald Joseph
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The stories just felt negligible and even though they were in continuity, it seemed like they weren't.
True. Things sometimes got muddy when a mainstream title referenced something that happened in MTU or MTIO, but not so much as to cause problems (that I can recall, anyway). But I do like thinking of them as "somewhere else."
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