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James Woodcock
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The thing I didnít mind about the unmasking is that it showed just how banged up he was. 
That only android got to see him was also good. 
Itís not like it was MCU or Stallon Dredd levels of helmet removal. 
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Wallace Sellars
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I recognize that many people want to know everything (or as much as they can) about the characters they follow. I appreciate a little mystery, and hoped that would remain for the Mandalorian. Ah, well...
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Matt Reed
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I really loved this first season.  Taken in bits, I'd say the first third was great, it ground to a halt in the middle, and then picked back up with the last two eps.  

Listen, I think this would have been a fantastic BBC six episode series.  But it was required to be eight and that's where it fell apart for me.  The ep with saving the village has been done in every single sci-fi series since sci-fi was on television.  It's only reason for being was to introduce a character that was then recruited for the final two episodes.  The prison breakout ep was particularly painful insomuch as if felt like a way to save CGI $$.  Perhaps we'll see a survivor of that mission come to haunt Mando, but if not?  A waste.  

All in all, however, a great ride and one that left on a note that makes me eager to see where they go in Season Two.  

Oh...and I didn't mind Mando's facial reveal considering the tenants of the promise was made on never revealing it to a living being.  I don't honestly think that his face is such a HUGE reveal that it needs to be saved until the final shot of the final season.  Wouldn't that be a disappointment after seasons of buildup just to see a normal man's face?  Better to get it out of the way, as they chose, than to create a buildup that could never be equaled if it had been decided to hold it for several seasons.  A brave decision if you ask me.  
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Wallace Sellars
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Oh...and I didn't mind Mando's facial reveal considering the tenants of the promise was made on never revealing it to a living being.


The viewers are the living beings who saw his face.

Yes, I know I'm a lone voice crying in the wilderness, but... There you have it.

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Matt Hawes
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 Matt Reed wrote:
...A  brave decision if you ask me...

A braver decision would have been to do the entire series where the lead actor's face is never shown. The reveal didn't bother me, as I actually expected it to happen sooner. I never once thought it wasn't going to happen at some point.  
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I personally don't see the appeal of never seeing the lead's face.  Maybe in a two-hour movie (DREDD)... but for at least two whole seasons worth??

And again, I find the whole conceit a little ridiculous.  Wasn't there dialogue stating they're never to take their helmet off, ever?  That aspect falls apart when you give it less than a minute's thought:  Eating, shaving, hygiene, dental work, blowing your nose, wiping your eyes... somehow these are non-issues, just because?






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Jim Muir
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<<I personally don't see the appeal of never seeing the lead's face... That aspect falls apart when you give it less than a minute's thought:  Eating, shaving, hygiene, dental work, blowing your nose, wiping your eyes... somehow these are non-issues, just because?>>

Count me as another who was disappointed that they chose to show his face - I much preferred the whole 'man with no name' thing going on. 
As for all the practical reasons above... doesn't seem to have got in the way of 40 years of Judge Dredd in the comics!
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Its not that they never take their helmet off.  Its that they're never to allow anyone to see their face.  So he takes the helmet off all the time, in private, to do those things.  They cover this pretty early in the series.  A woman asks him when the last time was that he took it off.  He says, "Yesterday."  She says, "No, in front of someone..."  He says it was when he was a small child.
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 Wallace Sellars wrote:
The viewers are the living beings who saw his face. 

Yes, I know I'm a lone voice crying in the wilderness, but... There you have it.


Unless you're a part of that universe, the "viewers" have zero impact.  You can't honestly expect that the viewers would be taken into consideration as active participants in the main character's story.  Do you think that you're always a "part of the story" in every series you watch?  Within the narrative underpinnings of what has been established, only a droid saw his face.  That you, as an audience member, saw it as well doesn't negate that.  To say that it does is just, well, silly.  Do you say the same when you read a novel?  Or a comic?  I doubt it.  Sorry, but it feels like it's just a weird, arbitrary judgement used to justify not liking something.
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I thought it was great, give me more!
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Wallace Sellars
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Unless you're a part of that universe, the "viewers" have zero impact. ...


I absolutely think it was a bad idea to show Mando's face. The sentence you're taking issue with though... Maybe I should have included a smiling emoticon at the end. I thought it would be obvious that wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
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Rob Ocelot
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 Matt Reed wrote:
Listen, I think this would have been
a fantastic BBC six episode series. But it was
required to be eight and that's where it fell apart
for me. The ep with saving the village has been done
in every single sci-fi series since sci-fi was on
television. It's only reason for being was to
introduce a character that was then recruited for the
final two episodes. The prison breakout ep was
particularly painful insomuch as if felt like a way to
save CGI $$. Perhaps we'll see a survivor of that
mission come to haunt Mando, but if not? A waste.

One thing I admire about the show is they are clearly
paying homage to their influences -- most of the
episodes are structured like done-in-one TV Westerns.   
They don't turn around and pull a surprise twist/cheat
ending or have characters suddenly reveal they were
always two steps ahead of everyone else. Modern
audiences are now conditioned to expect these types of
plot resolutions.   The 'one last caper' jailbreak
episode literally goes by the numbers for that type of
story for better or worse.   I agree it's clearly
padding the episode count but it was fun padding -- I
never expected to see Clancy Brown doing an action
role in heavy makeup!   

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Oh...and I didn't mind Mando's facial reveal
considering the tenants of the promise was made on
never revealing it to a living being. I don't
honestly think that his face is such a HUGE reveal
that it needs to be saved until the final shot of the
final season. Wouldn't that be a disappointment after
seasons of buildup just to see a normal man's face?
Better to get it out of the way, as they chose, than
to create a buildup that could never be equaled if it
had been decided to hold it for several seasons. A
brave decision if you ask me.

Agreed. There's only so much stalling/skirting around
that elephant in the room before it drags the
storytelling down.   We've also seen his face as a
child so his adult human face shouldn't be a surprise
except for those who read the child flashback scenes
as a red herring.   Feels kind of weird to praise a
story for being straightforwardly told with no fake
outs or twists but there you go.

Yeah, I can't wait for Season 2.

It feels like a STAR WARS story.   That
counts for a lot in my books.

Edited by Rob Ocelot on 12 January 2020 at 1:25pm
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