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Doug Centers
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Posted: 30 June 2019 at 7:25am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

You're right, it absolutely does not fit. Just a trigger because of  BENEATH's opening scene. Believe me I wish I could ignore it also.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 30 June 2019 at 7:51am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Everything about BENEATH contradicts the original. Start with the dog tags (where did they come from?), move on to Brett having been sent on a “rescue mission” (whatever went wrong with Taylor’s ship it happened hundreds of years after leaving Earth), and continue to the introduction of an unexpected “time warp” (after the original established that ending up in the Future was a predicted manifestation of traveling at “nearly the speed of light”).
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 30 June 2019 at 8:56am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Heston should have stuck to his guns and refused to appear at all.
At least his salary went to charity, so some good came from the movie.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 30 June 2019 at 9:13am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

There was an element of DC style time travel, too, in BENEATH. Like Supergirl journeying to the 30th Century and meeting the children of Superboy’s Legion, Brett arrives right after Taylor’s adventure.
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Koroush Ghazi
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Posted: 01 July 2019 at 4:18am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I don't think there's much contention that Beneath the Planet of the Apes is a blatantly contrived sequel where none was required, but I do have to admit that I do enjoy Escape from the Planet of the Apes and some of the ideas it puts forward - a film that really wouldn't have been possible without the silly way Beneath came to be tacked on to the first, and of course, the even less subtle ending it had.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 July 2019 at 4:29am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

ESCAPE is not as horrible as BENEATH, but it’s still riddled with flaws and retcons. Even allowing that the Apes were able to raise Taylor’s ship from Dead Lake and somehow get it into space, the whole story depends on there being a physical “time warp”—one which actually flows in two directions.

It’s greatest sin, tho, is the introduction of the “trained apes” origin/backstory, which entirely contradicts the first movie.

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